Probably because they told their employees and their families to like it xD
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It looks better then Diablo III and it's a free mobile game, funny eh? XD
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"Wait 2 hours to kill this mob or use 100 golden skulls to kill them now"
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alright?...i don't follow blizzard.from what i understood, they had announced a new game so naturally fans feel betrayed that this ended up being that game.but honestly, i thought the franchise was dead already.in fact this is what you do when the franchise has run its course and needs to be rebooted for a new generation.
i didn't even knew people liked D3 that much
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Because Diablo 3 wasn't actually that bad... not what the early fans really wanted, but it wasn't that bad.
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In current form D3 is quite decent. But that's after many patches and expansion. And still - endgame is really boring - and that's by design.
Famous Blizzard's "we will release it when its ready" are now empty words.
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because the 95% of people that play D3 never played D2 or any good real game, this people just played amazing cinematics and graphics games.
this people don't even know how is a real good game.
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Let's appreciate the fact that someone actually stood up and expressed their disappointment right live on the stage.
But anyway don't like it, don't play it, that's how it works. It's not like hack n slash games are exactly extinct these days.
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Besides, people said that Diablo 3 killed the franchise back then when it was released and now suddenly everybody loves it and want another one. Let's accept the cold reality: listening to complaints isn't really going to work.
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I don't believe that to be true. They can ignore comments, but they can't ignore their own bottom line.
That is the beauty of capitalism. You can vote with your wallet. And somewhere along the way, the results will be there and they will be felt.
It may take a long time, but I still think that this mechanism holds true.
Diablo 3 was a disappointment for many, and there were lots of valid points of criticism that I won't rehash here and now, but at least it was still a real Diablo. It still deserved to carry the name.
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At the end all that matters for them is the net profit and a mobile Diablo - let's get real - will outsell all the existing games of the franchise. So what people think is irrilevant.
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How much are you willing to bet on this? Outselling everything before?
Well, it always depends on how you count. But don't get me wrong, I know what they are trying to do, and they know as well. You're right, it is about profit, and I don't think that they will lose any money on this. On the contrary, I am with you, it will probably sell like hot cakes, at least in Asia. But maybe only in Asia. And that's the crux, you have used the respected name to sell what would otherwise be irrelevant, generic crap that would never do well on its own regard. But now you have burned the name, devalued the brand. Whatever the plans for the future were, it will never be easy now. They will make their profits for the next 5 or maybe even 10 years, okay. Fine. But what about the next 20 years? What about 50 years? The next 100 years? Well, that's what you get when you sacrifice the long term prospects for short term profits.
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The market is shifting towards mobile games made for asian markets, but that doesn't mean that they will eventually stop making actual games in the future. Look at Bethesda: Fallout Shelter is the most profitable game of the franchise beating easily even Fallout 4, but that didn't stop them from making Fallout 76. The same happens with Elder Scrolls and other franchises that had a mobile release. As far as i know, there's no reason to think that Diablo 4 will come sometime in the next future, especially because Diablo 3 still has sold well, or at least well enough to consider even a Switch release.
And let's face it, people will buy anything with the Blizzard name in it. Personally, i'm not bothered with Immortal as it's a side project (they even outsourced development to an obscure chinese developer) and Diablo 4 probably is in the works anyway.
Surely they could've managed this announcement way better, yes.
But what about the next 20 years? What about 50 years? The next 100 years?
Hard to predict, for what we know Blizzard could even close in the future or maybe gaming won't exist as we know it anymore. It's pointless to think that far and 20 years from now the Diablo franchise might be long dead regardless of Immortal. Maybe Diablo 4 could even be the franchise-killer, who knows. After all, 40 years ago there were some franchises that were literal gold mines, but now are pretty much dead (Pac Man, Breakout, Sonic). They saw the mobile market as a profitable one and decided to try their luck there, simple as that.
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Quoting RedPill Shark, whose comment keeps getting censored: "No King Rules Forever My Son" I enjoyed my 20+ years playing Blizz games, but it seems now is the time to admit the soul is gone. Goodbye Bliz. I will truely never forget my first Orcs vs Humans experience, again, thank you and goodbye."
On one of those videos whole page is filled with comments like this one. I wonder if it's some kind "internet army" doing it's funny business or blizzard actually censores comments. Inb4 "comments are disabled" if second option is true.
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I don't get it. People love Overwatch and its lootboxes, but if a Diablo game has the same microtransaction system, it suddenly makes the most zealous fanbase in existence cry out in revenge? Why, just because it is on mobile but they would love the same payment system on PC?
I mean, come on: Blizzard jumped on the lootbox craze with Overwatch. They released StarCraft 2 as three games to make people pay more. They released a trading card game, a legalised money press, even before the pinnacles of greed, Bethesda or Valve jumped on that bandwagon. They are goddamn Activision—Blizzard, a company that made almost FIFTY BILLION DOLLARS in lootboxes in the past decade. And a P2W mobile game is what makes people cry?
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Do you really don't get it, or a you just concern trolling here?
It's hard to tell sometimes.
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I really don't get it. The Blizzard user base so far responded with a 'yes, more please" to every single one of their "do you want us to exploit your wallets more?" question. This is not even a big step forward, not compared to Hearthstone's random card pack or the Overwatch lootbox payment options. If it was a shitty Diablo hackjob mobile game, I would understand it, but the thing is not even out yet.
I mean, part of me is happy that the masses started to treat Blizzard how they should have been treated for almost 12 years now, I just don't get why revolt over a mobile game of all things. With this logic, Bethesda offices should have burnt with Fallout Shelter, but people were relatively okay with that one.
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With this logic, Bethesda offices should have burnt with Fallout Shelter, but people were relatively okay with that one.
The difference is that Bethesda had already announced Fallout 4 and Fallout Shelter was just something small on the side. The mobile Diablo thingy is not coming along with a "proper" series installment but instead of it, or at least that's the impression people get from the announcement.
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Exactly. And no one would complain if Blizzard would start a new game, a new series, a new franchise. But no, that is not what's happening here. They know they own a respectable and valuable name: Diablo. And now they use that name to sell some generic, bland, pay-to-win, microtransaction mobile gaming crap. Because, be honest: Without that name, who would care for mobile game from China #2731?
I guess we know the answer.
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you played diablo 2 + LoD ??? i bet no judging your comments.
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Not fully and not the expansion, since I got bored with it somewhere before reaching Diablo. It was just Diablo 1 with somewhat nicer graphics and more monster variety. Plus a box that had interesting combination mechanics, although I admit I never fully tried to explore that one.
Although I fail to grasp how a single 18-year-old game has anything to do with the entire company's business practices from the past 10 years. I am kinda curious about the logical connection there.
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and that's why you will never understand the backstab they did to all the customers with that mobile phone game.
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*Slides Heroes of the Storm to the pile along with it being moba, more casual than the hrrrrdcore ones, AND having lootboxes from the start*
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What's your point? HotS is not the same franchise. Neither is Overwatch. This is literally a different thing.
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You are incredibly observant and knowledgeable, yes. Different names usually belong to a different franchise.
But as often is with written text that is longer than a sentence/line and tries to convey a message, talgaby said almost a whole paragraph about Blizzard's monetization. Here, maybe you missed it
I mean, come on: Blizzard jumped on the lootbox craze with Overwatch. They released StarCraft 2 as three games to make people pay more. They released a trading card game, a legalised money press, even before the pinnacles of greed, Bethesda or Valve jumped on that bandwagon. They are goddamn Activision—Blizzard, a company that made almost FIFTY BILLION DOLLARS in lootboxes in the past decade.
And I added Heroes of the Storm to that, a game that is not a main-line Blizzard game, hated by many becasue it's a moba and often forgot for that reason, and also it's choke-full with lootboxes.
TLDR: nobody claimed they are the same franchise, that's just in your head. And it's about monetization. Like most of the post was I replied to.
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You're always welcome at Path of Exile. The discord is great for asking questions if you're just starting.
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They had 6 years to do something new or even a remaster/remake of the old ones but they took the easy way and went mobile (destroying their reputation). Laziness is what is going to kill Blizzard.
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I played a shit-ton of D2 back in the day, but TBH, I don't really see anything in the brand that would make me pick up D4 or D5 or whatever the "true" new game would be, over any other ARPG. So I am not too bothered it they intend to milk the franchise dry before killing it off for good, or whatever they are going to do.
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I don't play mobile games so I don't care. Have D2 and D3 in my account that I can play again if needed.
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I'm just so happy they announced Warcraft 3 Reforged. We haven't got any form of the Warcraft RTS since 2003. That's 15 years. Diablo fans you got Diablo 3 in 2012. It's your turn for blue balls now lol.
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if the Starcraft remaster is anything to go by it's actually free vanilla game for everybody and a graphical upgrade for those who want it
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If you still have the box with CD codes etc. you should be able to register the CD key via the battle.net account management page, and download the installers from there.
They'll probably hook up WC3 classic to the Battle.net client soon enough, same as they did with Starcraft Classic.
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"Graphical upgrade" lol. Check this website
https://playwarcraft3.com/en-us/
I have no problem spending $30 on Warcraft 3. 24 player custom games with a revived custom game community. that alone is worth the entry price
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No, considering the amount of work they are putting into this. $30 is a fair price. Starcraft Remastered was a much smaller job, hence the lesser price.
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The price should be 25 or 30 euro, not 40. I agree that is BS. It sounds like a pricing mistake honestly, or maybe they thought Europeans would pay it anyway. (They will charge as high as they think they can get away with.)
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I dont understand why is this bad?
All people that dislikes still download it later on
im not gonna play it either but why hate for that? :D
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Video game circle jerk. Expect all the usual hyperbole.
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BrokenNoah:
Complaints? Nu-uh.
Criticism? Verboten.
Having an opinion? Toxic.
You are only allowed to do one thing, ever : BUY BUY BUY.
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Sure Vecchia. Whatever you say Vecchia. You seem to have been a busy boy here Vecchia. Busy, busy, busy.
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I played D3 a lot during first year, but I switched to PoE more than 5 years ago. Went back a couple months when I won the expansion, it was very good actually, but then quit again. D3 seasons are pointless, they never add anything to the game.
I actually hoped for a second D3 expansion. I mean, the story can't really end with Reaper of Souls.
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I wish I could muster enough willpower to care. D3's expansion gave me hope, but director leaving and game ending up in season hell put the franchise down a path I did not like. This mobile cash-in does not surprise me one bit.
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I don't think one mobile game is enough to kill a franchise such as Diablo. But they should know their timings better. It's obvious that if you market a new game in a franchise, which then people expect to be a proper sequel (in this case, Diablo 4), and then you go and announce that it's a mobile game instead, people will freak out. And with reason. However, at least now we got a new candidate for most downvoted video on youtube (and all records that can come with that, such as most downvoted video in the least amount of time).
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Blizzard made this, if someone will get the joke, it has to do with older Youtube layout
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My reaction
If they keep supporting Diablo 3 I don't see the harm. Yes sure, it's a mobile game and we all did a sacred foul to despise everything that is portable, but as far as mobile games go it doesn't look that bad.
Plus it didn't come out yet, so save your sticks and stones for later.
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They keep reuploading and deleting comments. They even have one version unlisted hoping that it will avoid the anger of the fans (it didn't lol). It's bad enough that they hired a Chinese company to simply reskin one of their games with Diablo in it, but to now do all these shady stuff trying to silence the fans and hide their failure? PATHETIC.
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Yeah. I'm of the less popular opinion that this game announcement didn't 'kill' the franchise. But deleting comments and trying to cover up the backlash? That sure might ._.
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They have put so much work on this crap, instead I was really hopping for a Diablo MMO. Blizzard needs to think about the real players that support and have loved the game for years. I am wishing this to be a one time mistake. Get back on track Blizzard!
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