Is there a steam app for my Nokia ExpressMusic Symbian Phone,
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Yeah big middle finger for us... I'm not going to replace my phone for Android or SheepOS.
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http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/steam-escrow-petition-2
old ones got deleted O.o
coincidence ?
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hope it's will be count
at least volvo provide opt-out for user
and just realize if im using mobile auth it's mean in the future if i want to login my steam account, i must check volvo sht apps to get access code everytime ? not only affected to trading but login too ?
seems volvo want and forced user using their sht apps
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Works great, good job valve.
Why would anyone buy a windows OS phone?
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Derp.
1 - Not everyone has smartphones.
2 - Not every smartphone is ios or android.
3 - "Why would anyone buy a windows OS phone?" Because they want to?
4 - Not everyone with a smartphone that hasn't ios or android, bought it, I won mine at a contest.
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yeah. i find windows phone the most friedly next to other options ._. and I odnt want to replace it.
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Why would anyone not take advantage of the technology and opportunities of the 21st century? I mean, an android phone goes as low as 20 to 30 bucks, it's not like an extremely expensive product unaffordable for everyone.
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There's also the issue of the monthly phone bill...
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You can use a smartphone without a SIM card, sticking to apps and Wi-Fi. Sure, it's not much of a phone anymore, but... are they, really?
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Sure. I have an iPod Touch I think I could use but I'm holding off until I hear the authentication app is reliable (I hear people getting locked out when it wants an authentication code to sign into the authenticator...). Unless you'd use the other features of an inactivated smartphone, it's silly to get one just for authentication purposes.
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That would be silly, sure. But if you sum up the potential benefits (offline maps, Whatsapp or similar when under Wi-Fi, games) then it might make sense.
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Because their awesome and some people don't like android nor ios, like me.
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Unless I am misunderstanding the update, you no longer need to receive an SMS to activate the authenticator. You can now use the email you have on file. I'll test this tonight. It will still be a royal pain in the behind, but it might work still.
That Blue option at the bottom didn't appear when I last attempted to use it, but maybe it will tonight!
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Welp, I activated it, deactivated it and now I'm always online according to my profile (except I'm not).
Tried reinstalling the app, wiping cache, restarting PC, anything I could think of but there is no escape.
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But they will delete all my alts as well which means you will be gone too.
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It's their platform. It's up to them to do things. If they think it makes things more secure, then why not?
If you don't have either, then there's escrow. It's not like your items gone to abyss.
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Mirror mirror on the wall, whose the bearest of them all?
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This basically means kids claiming they have been scammed and then claiming they were hacked will have to stop, because valve won't believe their bs.
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yeah, i activated it with bluestacks.
it sounds like a real PITA.
doesn't it say that you can disable it via privacy options, tho? just like the other stuff?
for simple sms i use that pinger.com/tfw (was good for redeeming amd dirt coupons, can only do 3 per acct, so i used diff proxy then I could also get a phone # for that zip code using the pinger website, for instant registration)
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Just had my first trade go on hold. No big deal at my end, someone sent me a 1:1 card offer and I don't mind waiting it out. Guess they don't have the authenticator as I do.
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This fucking sucks. The confirmations settings in 'privacy settings' already say that you won't get your items back if you disable it... so why this? I'm willing to take that risk.
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I just traded with a card exchange bot. The first trade went thru, the second and third went on hold, so I cancelled all trades on hold. now if I wanna trade it says "You cannot trade with 7 because you recently had all your trade offers canceled."
I cannot trade with anyone anymore - all other people are now called "7", at least i get the very same error message, no matter with who i try to trade with. does it mean I have to wait 7 days before I can trade again? I'm using the steam mobile auth - volvo, why are you punishing me because I cancelled trades on hold? I dont want any trades on hold, I'M USING THE STEAM MOBILE AUTHENTICATOR! WTF?
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Agree! Steam Mobile Authenticator is really BULLSHIT.
I wish they would stop it in someday.
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Also, I like how "items will be held by Steam for up to 3 days before delivery" means exactly 3 days, not a minute earlier
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Hmmm, not entirely true. I traded some cards earlier and it said one day, even gave the time. I'm guessing it depends on what items are traded. I'm curious now what items merit what kind of escrow period.
EDIT: I'm not using the mobile app, either. Was kind of surprised at one day.
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I have 4 held-back trades right now. All of them are card-for-card (1:1 or 2:2) and every trade is being held back for 72 hours
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Very odd. I traded some cards from my wife's account to mine today at 12:45PM and the message in the yellow bar at the top said that if the other party accepts the trade the items will be released from escrow on Dec 10, at 1245PM (tomorrow).
Once Steam is back up from maintenance, I'll trade some cards again and see what happens.
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Did you trade through the chat window, the Steam client or web browser? I don't have a smart phone, so I'm using Steam Desktop Authenticator, and I just got my first escrow hold trade.
I did a bunch of trades through SteamTrade Matcher and I did not see a notice that the trade would go in escrow. I thought this was a good thing because I was worried that if you could tell that a trade would go to escrow that it wouldn't split traders into those who can trade instant and those who can't. If you can see whether a trade will be put in escrow this can potentially cause people to not want to trade with people that can't.
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I was using the Steam client and trading cards between my wife's account and mine. Obviously we've been friends for over a year, so as someone pointed out that's why the shorter escrow period.
I'm not using the Steam mobile app/authenticator (no smart phone and I'll be damned if I bug my wife every time I want to use hers to trade).
I don't know anything about that Desktop Authenticator, but I'd definitely be very careful using something like that ... I know I don't plan on using it, but the most I trade for is cards anyway, and always with people on my friends list.
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I mostly trade using my browser using trade bots and services like SteamTrade Matcher. I've done some more trades and I did get the notice once, but it doesn't show up all the time because three more trades are in escrow and I only got the one notice.
The desktop authenticator is safe to use if you enable the encryption, but you can also just use an Android emulator and run the official app on your desktop. Even with the mobile authenticator, this is making trading a pain in the ass (which I believe is Valve's motive). When trades get put in escrow, they're removed from your inventory, so using something like SteamTrade Matcher to find people to swap duplicates now produces a lot of false positives because it doesn't know about items being held in escrow. I've already accidentally traded for a card I already have for because I forgot I had a trade for it sitting in escrow.
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(which I believe is Valve's motive)
You're not the first person to say that. It occurred to me a few days ago that this new trade system benefits Valve in a lot more ways than just cutting down on support for scams/thefts.
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It's going to drive more people to the market to buy things like trading cards, rather than wait out the escrow for a 5-10 cent card. Valve gets a cut of every card sold.
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It's also going to drive people to do less trading for games and thus cause them (though indirectly) to buy more games from Steam directly, out of impatience with the trading system, and also not knowing if the person you're trading with is using the authenticator.
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Fewer support contacts (the obvious one). Cuts labor costs.
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Cuts down on a lot of automated bots, again forcing more users to the community market for purchases.
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Further evidence is that a few days after announcing this escrow business, they also implemented a way for you to instantly and permanently remove games from your account if you no longer want them. If Valve is trying to protect users, why is it harder to trade a virtual trading card worth a few cents than to delete games from your account? So they're protecting users from losing inventory items if their account gets compromised, but then make it easy for someone to delete your entire game library. We have Valve Time, now we have Valve Logic.
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Yeah, I'm still trying to figure out the benefit of deleting games over just hiding them in your library. So far I can't think of a single one.
It seems a completely unnecessary addition to their "features" and one that hackers/account thieves are certainly going to enjoy.
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Same thing, just traded 3 cards from my account to my wife's account and it says they're on hold for one day (screenshots below).
From the trade window itself:
And from the email confirmation:
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1 day is bearable, i have no problem with that.
it's still useless for traders since you have to friend someone for 1 year. -.-
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NEVERMIND, someone edited their reply before I submitted mine.
Ninja'ed before I could ninja the ninja who ninja'ed me. -_-
EDIT: Hey, Mullins, I want to trade for a Gravity Badgers card you have. Add me so I can get it for Xmas next year, please? :P
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i just added 17 people to scam them next december.
always plan ahead. :3
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Just don't trade that one Gravity Badgers card. I'll be waiting til Dec 10, 2016 for it! :O
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I'll pencil you in. Let me know if your plans change. :3
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me adding you today was a coincidence. if you get scammed by "someone" in dec 2016 just blame sg for letting me win your ga :3
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I just read Valve's response/explanation. Wouldn't an alternative to the 3 day escrow be a 3 day lock on newly traded items? It would give the hacked account and Valve just as much time to realize the hack and act upon it. And if the 3-day escrow is to be a deterrent to hackers, so should a 3 day item lock. Either way, for 3 days the items can't be moved and after 3 days the hacker gets the items. The benefit to the 3 day lock would be immediate badge crafting, which a profit seeking hacker would not have interest in. Am I missing any holes in this proposal?
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Sorry if it has been asked before, but the discount they're offering is only for transactions that happen BEFORE 16th December, without effect on the seller, right?
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Now if only they'd add a toggle that we could enable to show a "This user has disabled trading on their account" on our profiles so we could quit getting friend invites from beggars and the bots Valve still won't deal with, this might all make a tiny bit of sense.
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yes it comfirmed
"1 trade on hold
Trades that are on hold will complete by the date specified on each trade offer. If you did not make these trades or wish to cancel them, you can do so by cancelling all outstanding trades. Cancelling outstanding trandes will begin a 7 day trade cooldown."
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hell yeah, 3 days long waiting if you didn't turn on mobile guard on time, and if you cancel the trade, you'll have 7 days trade ban ಠ_ಠ
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To be fair, they've been warning people in every trade window for a while. Still suck for those who can't use the app for whatever reason.
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I actually sent a trade yesterday well before they turned it on, but the other party didn't accept it until later today after it was on and now it is in escrow. I had to cancel all other outstanding trades before they could be accepted and also burn other people with the escrow. :(
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Something Valve apparently overlooked, partial chat copied off one of the massive Escrow topics:
"Also now your stupid community badge on the profile page shows all hackers if you [the user] do or do not have this little additional security tool available. So potentially you've just become a more interesting target to them. Nicely advertised by Valve themselves through their needy badge.
(so much for protecting your community - how confused can you get)"
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This is the price we pay for idiots who willy nilly fall for scams for that small 1%
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So what happens with coupons that are going to expire? Do they just expire during the wait resulting in an empty trade?
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maybe someone from valve can use them while they are on hold?
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7 day hold ensues. Perhaps extra for wasting valuable Valve assets.
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I heard that everything they hold is going to be freeze, so theday they hold doesn't count to the counpon date, never check it.
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Can someone clarify how someone is supposed to log in if their phone gets splashed or something?
I mean, my email server could theoretically go down, if my primary, redundant, and backup drives all die at once. But it's still on a registered domain. A simple matter of rebuilding the exchange and I'm back in business. If my phone gets damaged I'd be basically fucked wouldn't I?
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they provide you with a code you can use to turn off the mobile guard apparently. You get it the moment you sign up and IIRC you can use that code in place of your mobile code to get into your account and or shut off the mobile authentication so you can access your account.
I haven't had to use my code yet because I normally have my phone handy on me, but a few times I've needed a code without my phone handy and was locked out of my account for a few hours.. sucked..
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It still seems like an extra hassle that I for one don't need to bother with yet. Especially since I'm still using a 4S and am planning to upgrade in the near future to something that won't be crippled by future OS updates.
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Fairly sure all phones are eventually, essentially crippled by falling behind advancements in OS and software development.
I'm still using a S4 Active that I kept from updating to Lollipop(don't like a single thing about what it changed) and it still seems to do everything I want just fine. Well, besides having shit battery life.
What's your idea of a phone that is future proof?
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You're reading my statement a bit too literally methinks.
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Yeah, most likely. But since it didn't come off as terribly joking, I was curious what better ones you had in mind.
I did also forget to mention I totally agree with it being extra hassle.
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Source:
http://store.steampowered.com/mobile
Check this also: https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=4440-RTUI-9218
I don't have a smartphone with ios or android, even if i had, i would not want this..
Steam Desktop Authenticator I DO NOT HOLD ANY RESPONSABILITY ABOUT ANYTHING.
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