RTX Remix looks great but
At this price range AMD could step up as the affordable option and i would still consider it overpriced.
My RX580 is trying, but new games are already at mid to high settings aiming for 60fps at 1080p...i will hold on to it a bit longer.
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What I think about new GPUs is that I have just upgraded to 1070 and I'm not mental enough to spend these crazy prices on new ones. I hope this card will last me for some time.. will pair it with some decent cpu on cheaper end and be done with it. And check back in the market in another couple of years when I wont be able to even run new games on low an hope its has gotten better with prices.
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Hard to say for now if they are at least good enough to excuse the prices but with the Euro prices being inflated I don't think so.
The performance increases are as always mostly marketing BS, I am certain they are really good but not 2x-3x, that is obviously especially in cases with raytracing and DLSS3 enabled.
I am hopefully not forced to upgrade anytime soon since I bought my 3080 only 2 years ago but with their stupidity of it only having 10GB VRAM I am not entirely sure.
One thing is certain, branding the 4070 as 4080 12GB is absolutely deceitful.
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Apparently the 4090 is a really big improvement, about 60%, over the 3090 Ti. The 4080 and "4070", not so much, over the 3080 and the 3070, they are performance/price nor worth it. And I'm not paying 2000€ for a graphic card
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This shows you (roughly) the landscape of where the gamers actually live on Steam technology-wise:
Steam Hardware Survey - Video Cards
Top 5 are:
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Top 2 for me. 1060 as my main, 1650 as my backup. Not gonna lie, something more powerful would definitely be nice, but the 1060 has (mostly) served me well.
Those surveys are fun to check out a few times per year. Also a solid reminder that people with extremely powerful/expensive setups are a vocal minority. Shit, nearly 15% of users on Steam still play below 1080p.
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Exactly my point. 😄
Add to that the new 4000 series cards and up will require (if you want to operate them safely) a new ATX 3.0 power supply to handle the peak draw from these cards.
The new power supplies have a 12VHPWR connector that supports up to 600W, and a data connection. The PS signals power capabilities to PCIe to enable power limitations on components such as GPUs, SSDs, etc.
Just to add to the recent NVIDIA hardware announcement ... We are also looking at new DDR5, PCIe Gen 5, new socket AM5 and Zen 4 CPU drops from AMD, Intel's13th-Gen Raptor Lake dropping soon, etc. The component market is shaking up this year into next year in a big way.
Fun times... Lots of older hardware should be hitting the used market and creating opportunities for those looking to move up in specs on the cheap.
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i don't need these expensive gpu's because GTX960 is full filling my gaming requirements.
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Do sometimes wonder if people grasp just how much extra oomph is needed to game at 4k/1440p144/whatever over the 1080p60 that we were used to for so long. The 1080ti had 3584 cores, the $200 budget champ we all lament the loss of had 1280. The 3080ti has 10240 along with a bunch of extra RT crap, which even accounting for process bumps is a ridiculous leap. On the other hand if you're actually building a price/performance system around a 5600+6600, chuck in inflation alongside the world falling apart slightly and PC gaming isn't really anymore inaccessible than its ever been.
Never going to defend Nvidia and their blatant profiteering, they've the ethics of a garbage dump but I do sometimes wonder if a lot of it comes down to unreasonable hype and expectations too. The PC market is going batshit crazy, new standards for PCI, USB, GPUs, Monitors, etc, etc. appear seemingly every year and perhaps people who could afford to keep up with the slower pace of innovation five or ten years ago arent quite used to being left behind. It's okay, the number of us that can't grows every year and more importantly that 3070 you sold your kidney for during covid is still pretty good too. You don't need to buy these ridiculously overpriced products. Honest.
That said given one seems to be living through the death throes of Brexitland I fully reserve the right to revise this position from my tiny corner of a shantytown come September 2023. Good luck to anyone daft enough to buy these things, hope you get your money's worth.
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No take. I don't follow GPU news. I buy the best and newest commercial GPU I can afford at the time, then ride it until it's a potato. When I'm no longer happy with the performance, which is usually many years later, I buy the next best and newest. My current RTX 2080 is nowhere near a potato yet, so I haven't kept up on anything that came after it.
That's how I handle most of my electronics, including my phone. I'm lazy and I hate the process of buying, installing, setting up...etc.
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They get enough backslash to "unlaunch" 4080 12GB and most probably re-brand it as 4070 with launch at CES 2023. So in around 3 months.
Sucks for all partners who already printed boxes, put V-BIOS to cards and set up pages for 4080. Guess they will not be happy Nvidia forces them to scrap all that and re-purpose ready to go cards :33: One more reason why EVGA jumping NVidia makes more sense. Wonder if they predicted they would need to make new boxes, change GPU symbols and change BIOS on already manufactured and boxed cards.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1O9oldh_g4
Also there are rumors 4090Ti is cancelled, as its power draw was melting PSUs and tripping power beakers. But this is not confirmed and double checked
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/techandscience/nvidia-rtx-4090-ti-reportedly-cancelled-due-to-gpu-melting-power-supplies/ar-AA12R45V
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NVIDIA Cancels the RTX 4080 12GB After Backlash
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1O9oldh_g4
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I know a lot of your guys are either tech savvy or working in related field, what do you think about the new NVIDIA graphic card? 4000 series seems way too expensive compare to last generation, and I heard a lot people complain about the 408012.
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