Starlink will remain free for Ukraine, says Elon Musk. Hope this puts an end to this problem.
Elon Musk on Twitter - "The hell with it … even though Starlink is still losing money & other companies are getting billions of taxpayer $, we’ll just keep funding Ukraine govt for free"
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Gunmen kill at least 11 people in attack on Russian military recruits, Russia's state media reports
Two gunmen opened fire on Russian military recruits at a training ground in Russia’s Belgorod region, killing at least 11 people and wounding another 15, Russia's state news agency TASS reports.
The attack happened Saturday during a training session at the Western Military District, according to TASS, which cited the Russian Defense Ministry. The gunmen were said to be from former Soviet states. Russian officials have branded the attack an act of terrorism.
One more reason for the Russians to flee mobilization.
Despite claims by Russian authorities, it was probably the work of angry conscripts.
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Early reports claimed there were 3 Tajikistan citizens who had 'religious conflict' with other conscripts and they used a 'machine gun'.
Ed.
Lieutenant Colonel Lapin said that Allah was weak. An hour and a half later they shot him.
ASTRA journalists were able to speak with a serviceman who claims to have been wounded during the shooting at the Soloti range in the Belgorod region and saw what happened with his own eyes. At the moment, the soldier is in a hospital in the town of Valuiki. ASTRA does not publish the name of the serviceman for the sake of his safety. IMPORTANT: At the time of publication we were unable to independently confirm the identity of either the narrator himself or the identities of others who appear in the story.
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Iran plans to send missiles, drones to Russia for Ukraine war, officials say
Iran is strengthening its commitment to supply arms for Russia’s assault on Ukraine, according to U.S. and allied security officials, secretly agreeing to send not only attack drones but also what some officials described as the first Iranian-made surface-to-surface missiles intended for use against Ukrainian cities and troop positions. [...]
Iran’s armaments industry is preparing a first shipment of Fateh-110 and Zolfaghar missiles, two well-known Iranian short-range ballistic missiles capable of striking targets at distances of 300 and 700 kilometers, respectively. [...]
Iran also is preparing new deliveries of unmanned aerial vehicles for Russia, including “dozens” of additional Mohajer-6s and a larger number of Shahed-136s. The latter, sometimes called “kamikaze” drones because they are designed to crash into their targets, are capable of delivering explosive payloads at distances of up to 1,500 miles. [...]
Russia’s growing reliance on countries like Iran and North Korea is evidence of the impact of sanctions and export controls imposed by Western countries in the wake of the Ukraine invasion. [...]
As a result, calls grow for Israel to send Ukraine weapons. Israeli ministers have said it is time for the country to support Ukraine with arms shipments.
Maybe it's time to blow up Iranian arms shipments.
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I wouldn't really worry about Iran. It is a dick move of course, but meh... it's Iran. You can't expect much of it. Their previous drones failed often already. As long as China and India don't supply weaponry (which they won't) there isn't much to worry about. Iran is just a minor player compared to what NATO offers Ukraine.
If this drives Israel over the edge to supply weaponry to Ukraine, that would be a really good game changer for Ukraine. I hope they will consider supplying the iron dome air defense system, but I doubt it unfortunately.
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Forced deportations of Ukrainians. https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-october-15
Russia continues to conduct massive, forced deportations of Ukrainians that likely amount to a deliberate ethnic cleansing campaign in addition to apparent violations of the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide. Russian Deputy Prime Minister Marat Khusnullin stated on October 14 that “several thousand” children from Kherson Oblast are “already in other regions of Russia, resting in rest homes and children’s camps.”[1] As ISW has previously reported, Russian authorities openly admitted to placing children from occupied areas of Ukraine up for adoption with Russian families in a manner that may constitute a violation of the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide.[2]
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Today, "kamikaze" drone attacks across Ukraine
Russia has made increasing use of Iranian-made "kamikaze" drones in recent weeks. The low buzzing of these slow-moving weapons, is becoming a familiar sound across the country. Rockets sound "more like a whistle", while the kamikaze drones sound more like a massive motorcycle flying over your building.
https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-63282756
BBC live reporting 11:53 - Three people dead in Kyiv
The number of people killed as a result of a kamikaze drone attack on a residential building in Kyiv has risen to three, according to Kyrylo Tymoshenko, the deputy head of Ukraine's presidential administration.
Nineteen people have been rescued, he said on Telegram.
BBC live reporting 11:52 - Drones target energy supplier ahead of winter
By hitting energy infrastructure ahead of winter, Moscow’s strategy seems to be inflicting as much pain as possible on Ukrainians, no matter where they live.
BBC live reporting 11:14 - 'Nearly 40 drones and three missiles taken out so far'
Nearly 40 drones were shot down around the country last night and this morning, the Ukrainian armed forces have said.
In the south around the ports of Odesa and Mykolaiv 26 kamikaze drones were intercepted, while in northern and central Ukraine - which includes Kyiv - 11 were successfully taken out.
At the same time three cruise missiles in eastern Ukraine were also intercepted.
Officials in Odesa say a piece of infrastructure near the coast was hit by a strike.
Some context: Russia has ordered 2,400 "kamikaze" drones from Iran, according to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky. In today's attacks, those involved were Iranian Shahed-136 drones.
[REUTERS] - Ukraine shot down 85-86% of Russian drones involved in latest attacks - air force
/cloudfront-us-east-2.images.arcpublishing.com/reuters/LV3FZHHYTVMF3FZ5OPQKLGNZGQ.jpg "Smoke rises after a Russian drones strike, which local authorities consider to be Iranian made unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) Shahed-136, amid Russia's attack on Ukraine, in Kyiv, Ukraine October 17, 2022. REUTERS")
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🤡🤡🤡 Video on Twitter - A bit of random chaos, which in Belarusian army is called trainings
Rather than soldiers, they look like clowns performing a circus show.
At 0:35, why are they destroying a block of plaster on fire with a bat painted on it?
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It is known, Belarusians hate batman. Rumor goes, batman kicked their asses during their circuses. So they had to destroy the plaster bat to show how serious they are.
Batman isn't even allowed to buy a ticket to a Belarusian circus anymore. :(
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Maybe they're playing dumb so they never get sent to Ukraine.
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I saw it yesterday too.
Seem they are actioning for Cirque du soleil :D
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Russian Fighter Jet Crashes Into Apartment Building Across Bay From Ukraine
A Russian military fighter jet crashed into an apartment building in a city near Ukraine, resulting in a massive fire. The aircraft involved in the crash was a Su-34 fighter jet. The pilot of the jet is believed to have survived the crash. Some kind of engine problem according to the Russian statement.
So basically a maintenance problem, Russian mechanics need training too.
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The death toll now stands at 13, including three children, for a real Russian accident. https://edition.cnn.com/europe/live-news/russia-ukraine-war-news-10-18-22#h_a2c0c0c4a8ab0c67abcef3d60b79948d
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"мы воюем не с российским режимом, а, к сожалению, с российским народом, 82% абсолютно поддерживают боевые действия в Украине"
"sadly, we fight not Russia regime, but russian people, for 82% absolutely support fighting in Ukraine" - said Kiril Budanov, head or Ukr Defense Ministry recon department - "we gonna reach 1991 borders till summer" - he added
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On the store page:
The game devs - "One of the guys from our team was caught by the Russian invading forces in Bucha (where one of our stories takes place) and had to hide in a garage basement for a week with his family until they managed to evacuate. His house was plundered and looted by the Russians along with many other houses in the town. He told us his eyewitness account, which we used along with other public sources. A lot of our relatives' or friends' lives were also affected. Fortunately, everyone on our team survived so far, but the war continues…"
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Ukraine war: Blackouts in 1,162 towns and villages after Russia strikes
Emergency services spokesman Oleksandr Khorunzhyi said more than 70 people had been killed in the rocket and drone strikes since 7 October.
President Volodymyr Zelensky said that 30% of Ukraine's power stations had been destroyed in the past eight days.
Ukraine has identified the drones used in deadly attacks on Kyiv and Sumy as Iranian Shahed-136 unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs). They are known as Geran-2 in Russia.
Both Russia and Iran have denied that Iranian drones were deployed.
It seems that the Iranians have stopped denying deliveries of drones and missiles to Russia
Iran agrees to ship missiles, more drones to Russia
Oct 18 (Reuters) - Iran has promised to provide Russia with surface to surface missiles, in addition to more drones, two senior Iranian officials and two Iranian diplomats told Reuters, a move that is likely to infuriate the United States and other Western powers.
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[Video on Twitter] - Russian newly mobilized complain that they were given airsoft “bulletproof” vests
Airsoft vests to replace bulletproof vests, even pro-Ukrainian trolls wouldn't have thought of making up such a story!
The Russian soldier doesn't care about discrediting his own army, he is already wearing a funeral garb.
[Video on Twitter] - On Russia propaganda TV, propagandists are upset that their troops are not properly equipped.
Russian state TV even showed a familiar video at 2:30. In this video, a Russian officer advised newly mobilized people to ask their relatives to buy tampons to replace first aid kits.
[Video on Reddit] - Russian prisoners, who were returned to Russia as part of an exchange, say that no one abused them in Ukraine - A form of subversion to the government propaganda narrative which declares the opposite
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Not finding any news articles on the Airsoft vests to confirm it is real. Do you have a link?
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You are used to doubting anything that might discredit the Kremlin's narrative.
Since you say you are American, do you agree with russians threatening to blow up american military bases all over the world? https://twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1581340861362995200
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What does that question have to do with wanting a reliable source? I don't have a twitter account so can't get that much information from it.
Yes, I am an American, what of it? NO, I don't support Russian attacking American bases.
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It's actually a pretty interesting look at how the Russians see us atm - that is, if the translation is reliable. Most of the discussion is about how to force the US to the bargaining table. Julia Davis is a neocon shill who writes for the Daily Beast and WaPo, her focus on reporting/interpreting Russian media for the rest of us, because apparently we are not able to do that for ourselves. Conveniently, she leaves no link to the actual broadcast for me to share with you or for me to verify if her translation is trustworthy.
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Translation in the video with airsoft vest is on point, just checked it to be sure.
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Not sure there would be any news on that - russian news won't cover it of course, and other countries might count is as insignificant.
This is one man, but seeing others NOT disagree with him, it seems plausible they all got the same stuff. As for the translation - it's correct, can vouch for it.
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The Russian invaders may withdraw from the city of Kherson and prepare to shell the city of Kherson, as they expect Ukrainian forces to enter the city.
Russians dig fortifications for artillery and prepare to attack Kherson
Vitalii Kim, Head of Mykolaiv Oblast Military Administration, says that the Russians are preparing to shell Kherson, as they expect Ukrainian forces to enter the city.
Kim on Telegram - "They are sending out messages saying ‘evacuate, the Armed Forces of Ukraine will fire on Kherson.’ Knowing Russian tactics and that they are digging fortifications for artillery near the settlement of Chaplynka [Kherson Oblast]... I have a feeling that the Russians are preparing to attack Kherson. Unfortunately."
Battle for Kherson 'about to begin' as civilians told to flee
"In the very near future, the battle for Kherson will begin," Kirill Stremousov, Moscow-installed deputy administrator for the region, said last night.
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The game was won before the match.
That's how it feels.
Ukraine war: Russians start leaving Ukraine's Kherson city - BBC News
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-63311744
Putin imposes martial law in annexed territories in Ukraine
https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2022/oct/19/russia-ukraine-war-live-russia-warns-of-fight-for-kherson-in-very-near-future-hundreds-of-thousands-in-ukraine-without-water-or-power#pinned-post
🤔Russia is effectively shifting the fight for withdrawal.
Recently, Russia announced that it would not fire missiles and deployed Iraqi drones.
It no longer seems to have the ability to produce on its own or extra weapons for self-defense.
What is left is an air force that is rarely deployed, but it would be suicidal to deploy it in Ukraine, which is building up its anti-aircraft arsenal.
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Putin Could Force Ukrainians to Fight for Him Under Martial Law
Why martial law? Maybe to use forced mobilisation and forcibly remove segments of the population to other locations. Wait... Putin was already doing all this! Putin's martial law is just a meaningless gesture.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlqOWEaZ6Qk
https://www.la.lv/video-putins-gatavojas-uzspridzinat-kodolierocus-virs-melnas-juras-no-hersonas-sak-evakuaciju - article is in Latvian, but the video is unedited if you want to watch it without crux edits
Interview with that sick in the head degenerate surovikin.
Around 1 minute mark he starts describing Ukraine .... Basically replace Ukraine with Russia in this context and he is literally describing their own tactics, state of the military and morales... Trying to paint UA as the one which is unprepared and sending its citizens to death.
Either they are so invested in keeping this propaganda going on or kremlin literally is so out of touch with what is going on it is on the road on being hilarious if so many people wouldn't die due to them.
Video basically is about kremlin claiming that Ukraine is sending unprepared citizens to the frontlines to die, bombing infrastructure, that the enemy is criminal regime, that UA is shooting those who want to leave frontlines, that the units have low morale... all that is literally applicable to kremlin right now. And I feel sorry for those who actually fall for this sick propaganda. UA forces have been highly motivated and trained by NATO, well equipped and with good morale. Russian forces for gods sakes are even shooting each other over drinking in bars and driving unto visible anti tank mines..... Seriously - first months of colorful characters we had here defending Russia used exactly this tactic - they took everything that was said about Russia and turned it around.... Its literally propaganda book used by these morons.
Kremlin also not so long ago accused NATO of advancing on its borders and threatening its existence.. While conveniently waging economic war against west and invading a country. I'm seriously getting pissed at all of these spokespeople they have - surovikin, lavrov, medvedev, putin.. They should all be executed. Sick psychopaths threatening the world and murdering people.
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So it's the famous General Armageddon! All he has to do is read the teleprompter, but he does it in such a monotonous voice. The guy is so sleepy it's contagious.
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Declaring martial law in the occupied regions. What a clown.
Also - wasn't it just several weeks ago that putler claimed that any attack on russian soil would trigger atomic bombs? And then he annexed the territories in order escalate the conflict and try to scare NATO and UA to stop attacking in fear of being nuked? So, some time has passed, UA is raping russian defending forces and only thing that little clown does is issue martial law and pulls his cronies out of there.
While we shouldn't risk anything on that alone, we can be pretty clear putler is scared to use the nukes. For weeks he is threatening and threatening.. Now apparently they will blow it up over black sea.. I have a feeling they don't have the gut.
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https://youtu.be/NXvkHrxOSAM?t=420
Interesting video of one the Russian convict recruited to the war effort.
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Used as human decoys for 6 months, they're not supposed to make it out alive.
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[Video on Twitter] - Meanwhile on Russian propaganda TV: anger and disappointment fill the studio
The Russian military expects only defeats in the next two months. 🎉
They say they care about Ukrainian civilians and they are at war with NATO, but Ukrainians know that it's bullshit. The people targeted by Russia are Ukrainians, not current NATO members. It was the Ukrainians who lost 40% of their electricity production capacity after the Russian terrorist attacks. 😡 https://edition.cnn.com/europe/live-news/russia-ukraine-war-news-10-19-22#h_76fa5f5ff983a758b073f52beba9a498
Ukraine Cracking Down on Civilians Who Share Videos of Russian Strikes
Sharing videos showing damage to Ukrainian critical infrastructures must be prohibited. Because it reveals to the terrorists the accuracy, or inaccuracy, of their strikes on Ukraine.
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Social media (unconfirmed) - The Russian invaders begin to flee from Energodar, the town where the Zaporizhia NPP is located
"Yesterday, October 19, and tonight, looted property began to be removed from the compact residences of the Russian military and the occupying "administration" of the city.
Yes, a mass robbery of the Skifsky hotel was recorded. Rashists took everything possible from there and packed it into buses and trucks: televisions, refrigerators, furniture, kettles and other household items. This kind of evacuation with looting, or in fact looting authorized by Putin's next decree under the guise of the "martial law" imposed by him on the Ukrainian territories temporarily occupied by Russia." - Telegram channels of Energodar and Energoatom.
I wouldn't say that Russian mass looting everything is a feature of Putin's martial law. They did it so many times before martial law. It's more spectacular because they had more time to do the looting, that's all.
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Hot mic moment - The Russian official did not realize that his microphone was already on and made a confession about the Iranian drones "We all know that they're Iranian, but the authorities are not admitting that."
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Heard on news in the morning that there are also specialists from Iran teaching Russians to work with the drones. Time to sanction Iran to oblivion.
edit: ah, and here is an article about that as well - https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukraine-curbs-power-usage-after-russian-attacks-destroy-some-energy-plants-2022-10-19/
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Zelensky alleges Russia mined a critical dam on Dnipro river in Kherson region
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky alleged that Russian forces have mined a critical dam on the Dnipro river in the southern Kherson region, as well as the adjacent hydroelectric plant.
“We have information that Russian terrorists have mined the dam and units of the Kakhovka hydroelectric power plant,” Zelensky told the Council of Europe during a video address.
Separately, Mykhailo Podolyak, an adviser to the head of the Ukrainian President’s office, said on Twitter Thursday that Russia planned to mine the dam and transformers, forcing the deportation of Ukrainian civilians from Kherson and flooding territory to stop the Ukrainian counteroffensive in the region. The land to the south and east of the river is low-lying.
Growing risk of Russia reopening a northern front from Belarus
A senior Ukrainian military official says there is a growing danger that Russia will open a new front in the war through its coordination with Belarus, using it to cut military supplies to Ukraine. Belarusian authorities have denied any plans for mobilization but have held a high number of training and readiness exercises this year and recently announced a joint force with Russian troops.
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Ukraine war: Zelensky accuses Russia of plot to blow up dam
The Institute for the Study of War, an independent US-based think tank, has suggested Russia is "likely continuing to prepare for a false flag attack" on the Kakhovka hydroelectric plant, by creating "information conditions" for Russian forces to blow up the dam after they pull out of western Kherson and then accuse Ukraine of flooding the river and surrounding settlements.
President Zelensky told EU leaders by video on Thursday that Russia had already destroyed more than a third of Ukraine's energy infrastructure, with the aim of creating as many problems with electricity and heating as possible over the winter months. For the first time since the start of the Russian invasion, Ukrainians have been asked to use less electricity, with nationwide limits on usage between 07:00 and 23:00.
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I wouldn't doubt Zelensky plans to blow up the dam and blame the Russians for it.
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Besides the obvious, which is that Russia considers the dam their own infrastructure, why would they want to blow it up and deprive Crimea of water as well as jeopardizing the the cooling system of Zaporizhzhia nuclear power station? Makes no sense.
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Since Russia claims that Ukraine belongs to Russia, why would Russia destroy 40% of Ukraine's energy infrastructure?
Russia's claims make no sense and Russia is a terrorist state.
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Russia doesn't say all of Ukraine belongs to them only parts of eastern Ukraine they claim to have annexed.
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On Russian propaganda TV, countless times, propagandists have declared that Ukraine belongs to Russia.
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Firstly, Russia does not claim the area of Ukraine where they have attacked infrastructure. Secondly, the reason they attack it is because they are at war and that is SOP for countries at war - my country does it all the time, every time. Thirdly, they do this in retaliation for attacks on their own infrastructure, Nord Stream and the Crimea bridge by Ukraine and/or its allies.
Just because you believe that Russia regards all of Ukraine as their territory, doesn't make it true, and it's not constructive if you want to accurately predict their future actions, which is important if you want to effectively counter those actions.
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in retaliation for attacks on their own infrastructure, Nord Stream and the Crimea bridge by Ukraine and/or its allies
do you have proof for your claims or are they just more unfounded claims?
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Oh, come on! You've forgotten the Russian Kyiv convoy. Russia's goal was to capture Kyiv, the capital of Ukraine, and then the whole country.
And do not dare to say that the Russians gave up by choice, it was not a goodwill gesture. The 'Russian Kyiv convoy' tactic utterly failed due to lame Russian logistics.
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That is also speculation, not established fact. Arguments have been made that Russia was in Kiev in order to apply pressure for negotiation and left when it appeared that was going to happen (it almost did), or that it was a maneuver designed to draw off Ukraine forces from the Donbas (which it actually did), or maybe both. And it could be as you surmise, a failed bid to capture Kiev, but even that could have been with the goal of forcing a deal or a regime change and a deal - the total occupation of Ukraine does not necessarily follow.
The point being, neither of us knows what the strategy or goals of the Russian command are, beyond what they have clearly stated. But the idea that Russia plans to blow up infrastructure in their possession and from which they benefit, based solely on the idea that you think that they think that all of Ukrainian infrastructure belongs to them so why not blow it all up, is unrealistic and farfetched. I believe that you are creating a false equivalence here between war targets and war assets.
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In your alternate reality, Putin is not a dictator and Russia is invading Ukraine to bring peace. Talking to a bot is a waste of time.
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Is this really your response? Assigning me a viewpoint that I have never professed and then devaluing the conversation by calling me a bot?
If you have no further arguments, then why not simply say so, and we can agree to disagree?
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and russia is pretty the only one, who thinks these Ukrainian assets belong to them, it's an imperialistic behaviour from 100 years ago
i'm sure you like it too, when your neighbour smashes your door and destroys your kitchen/heating/shower, because he thinks your house/appartement belong to him and for the greater goal to get you out and a friend/relative/himself in
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Arguments have been made that Russia was in Kiev in order to apply pressure for negotiation and left when it appeared that was going to happen (it almost did), or that it was a maneuver designed to draw off Ukraine forces from the Donbas (which it actually did), or maybe both.
That's an extremely charitable pro-Russia read of the events and totally divorced from reality. The negotiations didn't really go anywhere and weren't looking to succeed when Russia was forced to evacuate the North because their position became untenable there. Nor did the Northern front make sense if the goal was to draw forces away from the Donbas. Russia concentrated way more troops there (which they could have used in the Donbas instead) than the Ukrainians.
But the idea that Russia plans to blow up infrastructure in their possession and from which they benefit, based solely on the idea that you think that they think that all of Ukrainian infrastructure belongs to them so why not blow it all up, is unrealistic and farfetched.
If Ukraine liberates the right bank then the Russians could view the dam as a liability. It's also a river crossing after all. Armies blow up bridges all the time, too.
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Charity has nothing to do with it. This only speaks to possible motivations of the Russians, in this instance to apply pressure in order to extract commitments from Ukraine as opposed to annexing all of Ukraine as Glorow suggests. That was the argument - not whether that strategy succeeded or failed.
Yes. It's a war, so the only question really is who stands to benefit. It's also possible that if there is fighting west of the river, blowing the dam would destroy Russia's pontoon bridges and cut their supply lines as well as their line of retreat. That's a pretty good strategy for Ukraine. I am not clear how the dam becomes a liability for Russia simply by losing control of it. It does still deliver water to both Crimea and the cooling system at nuclear power station.
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No, the arguments you offered were not plausible explanations for Russian moves and motives. That doesn't mean that we know their motives for 100% sure but certain things can safely be ruled out. The arguments you brought up are firmly in that category.
Yes. It's a war, so the only question really is who stands to benefit. It's also possible that if there is fighting west of the river, blowing the dam would destroy Russia's pontoon bridges and cut their supply lines as well as their line of retreat.
Nobody suggested that Russia would blow the dam before they lose the west bank. It's currently the main and most secure supply route for their forces in west bank Kherson. The fear is that they'd blow it up behind themselves if they are forced to retreat.
I am not clear how the dam becomes a liability for Russia simply by losing control of it.
Because it's a river crossing.
It does still deliver water to both Crimea and the cooling system at nuclear power station.
That's true. But military objectives might override those concerns.
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You're right. I missed the emphasis they made on blowing the dam after they pull out to the eastern side. And it does seem like something they might do if it didn't risk a meltdown. But I think the idea that military objectives might override the risk of such a catastrophic event is also implausible.
Question though, wasn't that crossing already damaged back in August? Is it even viable for military transport? Anyway, I understood that it was the flooding that would be the objective.
As for my other implausible arguments/explanations regarding the battle for Kiev, perhaps I do not present them very well. Here is an article that lays them out far better than I could. I confess, I misremembered the bit about drawing off Ukrainian forces from the east, which was rather supposedly more about tying down Ukrainian forces in Kiev, while Russian forces moved into the Donbas. Perhaps you will read it - if you do, I would be interested in your take on it.
https://canadiandimension.com/articles/view/ukraine-war-when-youre-in-a-hole-stop-digging
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But I think the idea that military objectives might override the risk of such a catastrophic event is also implausible.
Question though, wasn't that crossing already damaged back in August? Is it even viable for military transport? Anyway, I understood that it was the flooding that would be the objective.
There are reports that they have been dumping water from the reservoir. (Maybe to lessen the impact if they blow up the dam?) The flood would largely affect the Russian-held Eastern bank so I don't think they'd want to cause a catastrophic flooding.
The dam itself is undamaged. It's the smaller bridge spanning the overflow canal that was destroyed. The Russians built temporary crossings over that. And it's absolutely viable for military transport. It's their main resupply route. It's the Antonovsky bridge at Kherson City that looks like Swiss cheese and is unusable for heavier traffic.
I read the article you linked. Sorry to say that it's total garbage. The problem with alternative, non-mainstream sources is that it's hard to weed out the ones that present a legit alternative viewpoint from those that are parroting Russian propaganda or building articles on the opinions of discredited hacks. The first 'expert' they quote, Scott Ritter is a disgraced convicted sex offender (pedophile) that's outright on Russian payroll. (He is a regular guest on RT.) His analysis is a total joke, completely divorced from reality. His interview from February 24th has become a bit of a meme. You should watch yourself: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GkmdCaBECs
He is pulling absolute nonsense right out of his ass. Declares it all over on the very first day. Spouts info that was known to be totally false right then (Russian naval infantry disembarking in Odessa, fighting happening already in Mariupol) and makes predictions that turned out to be totally misguided in mere days (Russia will win decisively in less than a week, Ukraine's govt is as good as gone, etc). I find it fascinating how 'experts' like him can so easily shake off their former statements, never acknowledging that they were mistaken, instead coming up with a new round of nonsense analysis when reality catches up with them. And their audience continues to eat it up treating it as credible. It's genuinely funny that here they quote Ritter proclaiming that only idiots could think that the 40,000 troops strong attack on Kyiv was a legitimate attack and not just a feint/fixing action while at the start of the conflict he was rambling about how Russian paratroopers will land at Kyiv airports, push into the city and decapitate the Ukrainian govt and that the whole military operation will be over in a week because of Ukraine totally collapsing.
You could listen to a few podcasts or read a few articles from Michael Kofman for example who is a legit expert on the matter. The quality of discussion is night and day compared to hacks like Ritter. He is making reserved, non-sensationalist predictions and has a good track record. You don't get second hand embarrassement from reading his older stuff.
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So, couldn't the Russian destroy/damage that bridge and cut off Ukrainian military transport without actually blowing the dam?
I have seen Ritter interviewed on several independent journalism sites that I respect, (but not the one you linked - I will watch that). His demeanor does strike me as biased and he behaves like someone trying to draw as much attention to himself as possible. I do take what he says with a large grain of salt and try to look around for verification for what he presents as facts. As I have found out, this can be hard work, as google can be pretty stingy with sources of alternative or even detailed information/viewpoints. But he's surely not the only person to predict a swift and decisive outcome in favor of the Russians - I believe most of US military and press were in the same camp at the time. And, the fact that he was initially wrong, doesn't necessarily disprove the theory that the 40k troops may have actually been deployed as a fixing action. But Ritter aside, as he can be problematic, any thoughts on the other links - especially Johnson who was new to me and Baud, who is not, or for that matter Jake Sullivan's statement?
I will look into Michael Kofman, thank you. Though I find the Center for a New American Security's donor list as troubling as Ritter's criminal record, I will try to keep an open mind.
Thanks for reading all that.
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Arguments have been made that Russia was in Kiev in order to apply pressure for negotiation and left when it appeared that was going to happen (it almost did), or that it was a maneuver designed to draw off Ukraine forces from the Donbas (which it actually did), or maybe both.
Arguments then at least should have some grounding. The absolute humiliating defeat they suffered there and amounts of equipment lost (and the fact they had parade stuff brought with them) shows that these arguments really have no basing. Logically with how simplistically putin thinks the most obvious reason is they wanted to overtake Kyiv to install another puppet state.
And about blowing up infrastructure - For UA forces advancing and Russian forces retreating take a wild guess for who it is better to cause mass destruction. I don't understand how is this even a discussion. We know Russia is losing, Russia know they are losing. The fine line here is in the propaganda they are pushing. They want us to think they are strategically retreating. But we have time and time again talked about not underestimating the enemy - so lets not do that. The military higher ups know the situation and they are not blindly fighting. For them retreating and seeing no way back in within reasonable timeframe due to the losses taken, blowing up something like a dam would create devastation for their enemies and land they won't get either way.
Only Ukraine is the one party here which has no reason to blow up the dam apart from doing a false flag mission to make Russia looks worse.. But this scenario in my opinion has less basing or logic then Russians retreating. Why would they blame it on UA though? Again - they are not stupid. If they lose they will have to pay reparations for their wrongdoings, so making it look like the other side did it is the best case scenario for them.
So we can argue a lot about speculations and viewpoints, but I'm getting sick overlooking logic when talking about Russian motivation. What you wrote is very shortsighted look on how Russia works in Ukraine.
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Russia does attack infrastructure in Ukraine-held parts of oblasts they have officially annexed and in territories they'd definitely annex if they were in the position to do so. (Odessa for example.)
You also seem to be presenting it as a fact that Nord Stream was blown up by enemies of Russia.
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You also seem to be presenting it as a fact that Nord Stream was blown up by enemies of Russia.
They obviously have very sekrit information about it, which they don't share with us Kappa
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That was never the point. To be clear, I'm presenting it as a fact that Russia believes that Nord Stream was blown up by its enemies - they have said as much - and that points to one of their motivations. Until Sweden discloses their data, we are not going to know, for a fact, who was responsible.
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Russia believes that Nord Stream was blown up by its enemies - they have said as much - and that points to one of their motivations
To be frank can you really blame everyone not believing them? Russia has for all of these 8 months blamed EVERYTHING on the west. Each and every little thing going wrong for them has been blamed on west. They even conveniently found the evil Ukrainians who blew up the Crimea bridge within several days. That's some NCIS level shit.
So after shitloads of false flag missions and lies about west being at fault, there is literally zero reason to believe what Russia says. They have lost their credibility. Yeah - sure, keep an open mind and lets wait for the results of investigation.. And if they wont be made public then its something to think about. BUT Russia isn't at a position to make claims that we should believe at face value.
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I am sorry to say this is a politician (Baudet) from my country. (The Netherlands)
He actually has a lot of voters too. But yeh, these kind of people are pro Putin.
What the actual flying fuck is wrong with them....
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Voters don't pay enough attention to the politicians they elect. But there are limits, with his reptilian theory, I doubt he will ever be re-elected.
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Oh, he has never been elected. Nobody wants to work with this person. (luckily not everybody is this crazy)
So he is part of the "opposition", just screaming nonsense.
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Yeh, true. But it is not really a big deal. He is part of the opposition and not the coalition. So he doesn't really have much to say. And whatever he says generally gets ignored.
So next time he will be elected again too . Crazy people are allowed to vote too. But his role is minor and nobody takes him seriously. :P
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Russia Says Key Kherson Bridge Attacked With HIMARS as Region Evacuates
According to Russian authorities, Ukrainian forces reportedly attacked a key bridge over the Dnieper River in the Kherson region with 12 HIMARS missiles Thursday night, killing at least four and injuring 13.
Russian air defense units shot down 11 of the missiles, but one landed by the Antonivsky Bridge that is used to cross the Dnieper in the Russian-occupied region, Russian news agency Interfax reported Friday.
Russians say they shot down 11 out of 12 HIMARS missiles... It is well known that the HIMARS are pain in the ass for the Russians, it's impossible that they managed to counter so many HIMARS missiles. The Russians are obviously lying, this is a false flag operation. If anything happened that night, it was the Russians who were responsible.
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"A Bulgarian military news website and a Ukrainian new site confirmed the attack." In the article you linked.
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Pro-Ukrainian sources sometimes make mistakes. https://www.steamgifts.com/go/comment/8tlB2B0
Do you seriously believe that the Russians shot down 11 of the 12 HIMARS missiles?
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If you underestimate the opponent, you can lose. But Russia's air defense is one of the best, many have noticed this.
GMLRS if not aware, it is done mainly in the form of 2 options. One option is for targets whose coordinates are unknown and the second option is for the previously known coordinates of the target. Here, in the case of unknown coordinates, then there is no guidance head, so the price of the rocket will be less, but with known coordinates, then they put the guidance head taking into account GPS. The flight speed is Mach 2.5. But this is a missile that follows a ballistic curve and its course can be calculated, it is not a missile that goes to the target taking into account the circumference of the terrain.
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Why do you write some random information, which is so general it can't be verified (or useful) in any way? This is off-topic.
And Russia scrambles to keep their air defense around Ukraine, by moving their systems from other zones like Syria or Petersburg, leaving those areas vulnerable for attacks. Because systems that were around Ukraine were already destroyed. That's hardly "one of the best".
https://news.yahoo.com/russia-seen-transferring-anti-aircraft-074000805.html
https://www.timesofisrael.com/report-russia-draws-down-forces-in-syria-removes-s-300-air-defense-system/
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Why do you write some random information, which is so general it can't be verified (or useful) in any way? This is off-topic.
I thought that about the GMLRS M30A1 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M270_Multiple_Launch_Rocket_System everyone knows. And about the fact that there is an inertial guidance system https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inertial_navigation_system . That's just to increase the accuracy and put the receiver on 24 channels with GPS, then a very high-precision missile is obtained, although if it is not fired at. That's just about the flight path I wrote originally.
https://news.yahoo.com/russia-seen-transferring-anti-aircraft-074000805.html
And the news says that the equipment is not on the bases. Now the military has the opportunity to replace the old S-300 complexes with the new S-500, so why not do it. And if there is no equipment at the base, it does not mean that there is no equipment, it can go to the places of combat duty, which was not mentioned in the news, they only said that it was not there. Or perhaps it is being moved to another place and new equipment is already being prepared for the old places.
But from Syria, perhaps because of this https://militarywatchmagazine.com/article/syria-s-s-300-air-defence-systems-fire-warning-shot-at-israeli-f-16s although the tasks set have been partially completed and now the presence of personnel troops in such numbers is not really necessary, but the remaining police units will be enough to maintain law and order. But if the S-300 was transferred in full, then perhaps now we have an agreement on replacing these complexes with more modern ones.
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But if the S-300 was transferred in full, then perhaps now we have an agreement on replacing these complexes with more modern ones.
like this one?
https://t.me/AFUStratCom/8134
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like this one?
https://t.me/AFUStratCom/8134
Well, it is necessary to take out the Ukrainian trash for recycling. So they are being taken to Ufa under escort. Another 4 hours to go.
Changes made.
Why Ufa, so it's the one who takes off, then says, another 4 hours to go and get up for unloading.
Why are they being taken to Ufa, so all trucks, even civilians, look in the same direction, so there will be a way towards Ufa.
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I have no idea if they did or not. I am not pro Russia so I can see when they use propaganda and I am not pro Ukraine and can see they use it too. The issue is a lot of the Pro Ukraine people cannot spot when Ukraine uses propaganda on them.
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for claiming being neutral you're acting a lot like a pro-Kremlin
The issue is a lot of the Pro Ukraine people cannot spot when Ukraine uses propaganda on them
and a lot of pro-Kremlin can even spot it less, when they got influenced by russian propaganda machine
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Some people like you only see the world in black and white. If I am not with you I am your enemy type thinking. It is a very sad way to live.
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I dunno man.
I am originally not pro Russian or pro Ukraine either. However I am very much anti war which makes me very much pro Ukraine. And F Putin. And F off out of our Europe.
Isn't being anti war and violence a good thing? It is not that strange people are against the aggressor, which is Russia in this case.
But I never see or read Ukrainian news or propaganda. Only western. Most people are western here. I highly doubt they even speak that language,
The same can be said for pro Russia people. They only see propaganda too. Look at that cement guy, it is like his mouth is an anus that keeps pooping.
//edit: Actually, I was a little anti Russian before. Because of MH17. The state sponsored doping campaign during the Olympics and every time a group of Russians join a multiplayer game it is time to move on to the next one because clearly cheats are working. Now they have a lot more to be deeply ashamed about.. F Russia. (Not F all Russian people, it's not all their fault)
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I was raised during the Red Soviet bad guy era. We celebrated the fall of the USSR. I had issues with Russian computer parts sellers in the US mid 90's to 20xx. They would sell fake parts etc. This never made me hate the Russian people.
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As I said in my last line, I don't hate the Russian people.
But I am pretty sure, me and the rest of the world will be celebrating the day when Putin dies.
Sorry to hear your had to grow up with Russian electronics. It must be almost as difficult as having your family killed in Ukraine. I feel for you.
And of course you don't hate the Russian seller. If you are stupid enough to buy electronics that say "Made in Russia" then its pretty much your own fault and you should hate yourself.
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I tried explaining some of my history . "Ah, but did you die? " Really not a useful.
The computer parts were not marked "Made in Russia" They were fakes of real products or factory rejects. Kind of like Chinese clones of more recent times. Also during that time was pre regular internet. People would buy computer parts in catalogs and at computer expos.
Putin has allies and followers who would not likely celebrate his death. So you comment of the you and the rest of the world celebrating is factually incorrect. Most of the southern globe didn't even join in on the sanctions against Russia. The NATO nations would likely celebrate but that is about all.
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Do you even read what you are saying?
This here is a discussion about a war.
Do you really think comments about you being stupid enough to get scammed by Russians is useful for the discussion? Not really useful sir...
I am happy to hear you think that all people except NATO countries love violence and war. That's exactly what NATO stands for. A defensive organization, against people who think like you. If you actually believe African people enjoy war you are factually fucked up in the head. As you are in a NATO nation you are factually proving yourself wrong.
I guess the giant list of companies that turned against Russia were owned by NATO too?
And sure Putin has allies like North Korea, Iran and you. Be proud to be part of the team!
About the sanctions, Putin is attacking Europe, not Africa. How much does Russia trade with Africa or South America? Looking at their economy, not enough to eat from...
You are so NATO vs Russia. But NATO is not even fighting. Only Russia is the aggressor here, nobody else.
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Although this is not very relevant, but at the same time it relates to the discussion. Istanbul "Grain Agreement".
About the sanctions, Putin is attacking Europe, not Africa. How much does Russia trade with Africa or South America? Looking at their economy, not enough to eat from...
Who said there wasn't enough food. Here, farmers see problems not in the grain harvest (147.5 million tons (including 102.7 million tons of wheat)) https://zerno.ru/node/19602 , but in the problems of preserving this wheat. According to the agreement on the export of grain from Ukraine, wheat from Russia was also supposed to be put on the markets, and only grain was exported from Ukraine there. And so, it's just interesting who says that there is no food in Russia, there are more problems not with the availability of food, but with its preservation, here just in the absence of spare parts for refrigerators and problems are possible. And if they consider it critically important, then they can no longer look at patents, but just do something like that. Perhaps not such a more subtle management, but working and performing the assigned functions.
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If you can't read between the lines, simply just don't reply.
Of course Russia isn't literally out of food.
I meant it will be in an economic depression for MANY years to come.
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I am not pro Russia so I can see when they use propaganda
Good to hear that you are neutral independent observer!
Btw, can you point any of your post here, in this thread, where you are arguing with (pro-)Russian guys regarding their propaganda stuff.
I will bring my sincere apologies if you will do - since all your posts, I saw in this thread, are the arguing with (pro-)Ukrainian ones
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Oh, I am not really a "neutral independent observer". I get quite pissed about things happening in the Ukraine Russia war. I just refuse to pretend all information from most media sources are completely true. I do comment against some "pro Russia" stuff whether here or elsewhere, does it really matter?
I would not want to live under a dictatorships(like Russia is). I would not want to live anywhere that doesn't at least have the same protections for people as the US constitution(like most countries don't have).
I shouldn't get attacked every time I make a comment here.
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I do comment against some "pro Russia" stuff whether here or elsewhere, does it really matter?
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I shouldn't get attacked every time I make a comment here.
Don't you see the correlation here?
You DO comment against some "pro Russia" stuff elsewhere (but not here), and in the same time you DO post here only comments against all "pro Ukraine" stuff.
And a lot of your messages here are strange and out of this world. For example your idea (actually Musk's) to re-roll "referendum".
It's when you were taking serious and as a real thing so called "referendum" of Russia on occupied territories in the first place, and saw re-referendum idea as a solution.
And if they voted again to join Russia are you saying you would believe the vote.
Hope you did not consider me asking twice for clarification (without answer) back then as an attack on your comments?
To save your time I repeat my message to you from previous page.
Who are those "they" you mentioned?
Those few who left on bombed to dust cities in the newly occupied areas? Those, who still live on old occupied territories after 8 years?
Who should vote?
There were multiple times more population on the territories you are 'planning' to re-vote. Should all the refuges, who fled those provinces (in any direction) participate?
Or we should take into account only those who decided to stay there under ruzzi occupation (either welcoming ruz, or simply they can not leave for the reasons)
Don't you think such voting regarding the future of the lands may looks like US presidential voting if (idk how) all (or almost all) Trump's followers will be forced to leave US during election.
And for example my case - I live in Kyev now, but my mom is on the East (luckily not occupied now, but was).
If such voting will be held on my native town where I was born, went to school, and where my parents live, should I participate or no?
You see - you just throwing shit on the fan mindlessly saying something like that, and after that is playing innocent line "I shouldn't get attacked every time I make a comment here."
Dude, this is too serious and too personal to be ignored. It's about our lives, literally.
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I shouldn't get attacked every time I make a comment here.
Of course you shouldn't. BUT - don't kid yourself or others. You are NOT neutral. The tactics Russia is using is disinformation. They want people to not be sure of what is going on. They want west to start question their governments. That is their tactics. They think west is weak and they consider current support only short-term. They are hoping the support will end. They know very well what they are doing with the information space in Russia and they know its a lot more unrepressed in west - hence troll farms etc.
You think you are being neutral, but you are slowly being turned into anti-Ukraine by giving you a false sense of being neutral. You don't have to listen to what UA says - their propaganda is for raising morale. For getting support from west. Of course it will be blown out of proportion and I personally believe none of the figures UA post. Russia on the other hand has for years grown their influence all over the world by installing spies, politicians, companies in our countries. They control the information space and politics through sheer amount of money they can throw at everything. It has finally happened that we can see trough the propaganda as they try to push it overly too much in a very short time period.
The simple fact is - they invaded Ukraine. If you say you are neutral, do you want to say that it is ok to invade? And no, it is not "complicated". You don't have to blindly believe what UA says, that is fine. But for the love of god don't try to defend what Russia is doing. Because you are doing exactly that. You think you are neutral but you are pro-Russian. History is one thing - sure. You can analyze treaties and political dirty games as much as you want, but Russia is in the wrong - you don't invade a sovereign country. You deal with that shit diplomatically.
Russia is playing now on the fact west will get tired. On people like you, who will start to question the support for Ukraine. That we will forget what is going on there. That's why people "attack" you. Does your neutrality want to give in to Russia? That is not neutrality.
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Action of my government in the past cause me to question it not anything Russia says. My government has a history of using lies to get us involved in conflicts that have nothing to do with us. So while I can appreciate you thinking it was Russia propaganda that influences how I think it is just history.
It is good to hear that you do not believe everything you are told from Ukraine.
Also my neutrality wants to stop wars and loss of life.
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Dmytro Kuleba on Twitter: "Deliberate strikes on Ukraine’s critical civilian infrastructure are part of Russia’s genocide of Ukrainians. Article 2(c) of the Genocide Convention: “Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part”." / Twitter
https://twitter.com/DmytroKuleba/status/1583778630085144576
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CBS Evening News on Twitter: "HISTORIC DEPLOYMENT: CBS News has been given exclusive access to the Army’s 101st Airborne Division as they are deployed to Europe for the first time since the last World War. They are now the closest U.S. forces to the fight in Ukraine. " / Twitter
https://twitter.com/CBSEveningNews/status/1583596082541383680
The U.S. Army's 101st Airborne is practicing for war with Russia just miles from Ukraine's border - CBS News
https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/ukraine-news-russia-us-army-101st-airborne-nato-war-games-romania/
🙄 They seem "ready to cross over to Ukraine".
It seems unlikely that another Russian invasion of Ukraine, taking advantage of the chaos caused by the blackout, will occur.
The situation to take action against Russia's violation of the Genocide Convention seems imminent.
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Russian tactics are so disgusting. Russians don't want Ukrainians to have a peaceful civilian life, okay, that's their biggest mistake. The Russians involuntarily reinforce the Ukrainian army.
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How to explain to @Provos, @melisand and @cement what the Russians are doing? Maybe they should watch Russian propaganda TV.
[Video on Twitter] - Meanwhile on Russia's state-funded RT, director of broadcasting Anton Krasovsky suggests drowning or burning Ukrainian children, makes hideous comments about the rapes by Russian soldiers in Ukraine, says Ukraine should not exist and Ukrainians who resist Russia should be shot.
As said many times on the internet, "And then they wonder where all this 'russophobia' comes from". Uh... 😑
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I'll surely earn a bunch of blacklists by playing the devil's advocate, but maybe he's alluding to history.
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The point is Russians like to bring up not fully resolved historical issues between Poland and Ukraine whenever possible, because it's in their interest to do so. Hence I wouldn't be surprised if indirectly, that was on his mind. 80 years isn't ancient times (people live longer), and it's still a popular topic in the regions, especially in terms of genocide recognition politics in Poland.
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Did you have a chance to view that linked interview by yourself?
Can I ask you a question - where on that video is something about Ukraine-Poland Massacre story?
Since you are absolutely right saying - "the point is Russians like to bring up not fully resolved historical issues between Poland and Ukraine whenever possible" - just like you did it
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Why should I? I simply asked you a question - did you see that interview by yourself or not?
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Ok, I didn't until now and it sounds worse than I imagined. Still doesn't mean he didn't allude to methods not unheard of in the region.
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Yes it does not mean he didn't allude to methods not unheard of in the region, or the massacre of Indian population in US (Russians like to bring up this historical issue whenever possible as well. This is second their favorite theme. Third is how big US public debt is) or Cain and Abel horrible story! I can not read his mind through monitor.
But in that video is nothing except russian fascist calling for genocide of Ukrainians on the Russian State TV (not only kids, but the whole population of Ukraine not tolerating Russians - listen carefully to last 20 seconds)
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about drowning Ukrainian children
Russian children too. I agree the guy is fucked up.
a warcrime from World War 2 that happened in Poland 80 years ago.
It just makes no sense to me, i don't see it. Nor has it to do anything with the interview or with current war in Ukraine.
This war crime has stirred public and political debates to this day. The latter obviously stopped because of the current war. It's important for the current party's geopolitics to put it aside. Public - not so much. Poles are divided about the help (might be close to 50-50 if polls mean anything), and this event is brought up pretty often in Ukraine topics.
Also somewhere like about a third of Ukrainians consider people linked to that crime their national heroes (erecting statues et al). Meanwhile exhumations are denied and memorializations are considered by Ukrainian politicians as aggressions. It feels like a middle finger if anything. Not an old topic at all.
Poland is giving massive aid to Ukraine and Russia aims to weaken those relations. It's nothing new. Putin has been provoking Poland with nebulous claims and propaganda for many years already.
Poland and Ukraine will probably have a very friendly relationship for years to come
Let's just say I hope you're right. Both countries will probably need it.
Poland is helping big time right now with the Ukrainian refugees that lost heir home
Yet another topic, but it looks like I've stirred enough shit already. It doesn't look like we can have any sort of debate here, looking at all the responses.
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Tell me what's the unsolved historical issue with Ukrainian grannies.
The Russian director of broadcasting Anton Krasovsky say - "those grannies would spent their burial savings to get raped by Russian soldiers"
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And you don't like the answer to that? The answer was given immediately (2.12). http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-m51Owm-JYDA/UjWaILRkcpI/AAAAAAAALSs/6OsdjGrKj3U/s1600/birch_bundle.jpg (Hans Holbein der Jüngere) And this transmission is also cut off. Or do you think that this is where it ends at 3.15, then the answer is no, this is not the end of the transmission. The answer of the invitee is not given.
But this, oddly enough, does not surprise, why spread it out completely, you can also show positive qualities, and not only negative ones as planned, that's just if you cut off the original interview in the right places (no one will go looking for and watching anyway), then you can turn in the right direction.
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It's shocking enough that he even makes such statements.
What were the consequences for him, apart from the contradiction?
In my country, all the people would be outraged, he would lose all his offices and would probably be fined, but i guess things are different in nazi russia, Heil Pootin
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Does it really matters that the interviewed person simply suggests to replace killing children with beating them (just like on your picture)?
In this case only Krasovsky's words matters.
Dude, you clearly understand that this is precisely THE fascism performed by Krasovsky. This is what he said during broadcast that such Ukrainian children need to be drowned.
Or his promise (in the end of interview) of genocide - when he said that all Ukrainians who are not welcoming Russia must be shoot.
Or his recent joyful dances on camera celebrating the destruction of a number of Ukrainian thermal power plants.
Why are you trying to find some excuse for this?
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Dmytro Kuleba on Twitter: "Governments which still have not banned RT must watch this excerpt. This is what you side with if you allow RT to operate in your countries. Aggressive genocide incitement (we will put this person on trial for it), which has nothing to do with freedom of speech. Ban RT worldwide!" / Twitter
https://twitter.com/DmytroKuleba/status/1584161496086417409
🙄…Fortunately the voice mode on the space translator is out of order so I cannot understand what RT is saying in the video.
Perhaps it is not hard to imagine from the statements of others that he is vehemently advocating something that 80% of the human population on Earth detests.
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If you have a translation problem, you can watch the same video with Youtube (auto-generated translations, far from perfect): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lkshypC2Rk
But hurry to watch because 'Russian Media Monitor' (affiliated with Julia Davis) is being targeted by Russian trolls. Many Russian Media Monitor videos have been removed from Youtube. More on this:
https://mobile.twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1582006631394869250
https://www.reddit.com/r/UkrainianConflict/comments/y74rtj/julia_davis_the_woman_who_watches_russian_state/
Another point regarding Dmytro Kuleba's comment. Russian propaganda is vicious, RT medias outside of the Russian broadcast are softened. Outside of Russia, they remove such hateful content, to pretend to be the good guys.
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Shocking...
I always treat people the same as they treat me. But I am not able to drown and burn children.
I do hope this person finds a more cruel version of me during his lifetime. Let karma do it's thing...
Some people are so sick...
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Let karma do it's thing... Some people are so sick...
He has AIDS.
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These days HIV/AIDS is not lethal, unless you let it fully run it's course. Hell, persons with HIV can take medication and become non-contagious. Still, that dickhead deserves to die, slowly.
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Just to be clear to the lovely people in this thread. I don't support this kind of talk or action. Apparently if I don't say anything I somehow support this.
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Thank you for your support.
If you are referring me among those 'lovely people' - personally I don't need at all your "+1" under each news post, that reveals the true face of those ruzzies aggressors.
The only I'm asking you to refute fakes and manipulations that are being dragged into this thread by z-naZies. You proved yourself as a person immersed in the information space and versed in the news topics of this war. Try - it will be a piece of cake for you.
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Since you mention my name, I did watch it. It's indeed horrible and disgusting.
I also went and checked the reaction on RT. They disavowed him and kicked him to curb.
https://www.rt.com/russia/565207-rt-suspends-host/
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Good to hear that, indeed.
Btw, does "suspend host" in English has a same meaning as "kicked him to curb"?
Anyways, it's a good start. For sure, I will keep monitoring this case since the situation needs a legal consequences as well, not only suspension of this criminal as a host. I'm sure even in Russia there should be some kind of criminal prosecution for public incitement to violence and massacres.
Also, since it was not a live show as far as I know, some editorial staff, who let such materials to be broadcasted, should be "kicked to curb" as well. Or at least suspended.
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I forgot the 'the'. *kicked him to the curb" was to say that he was rejected publicly. Besides suspending his contract, RT's editor in chief also publicly condemned his words as "wild and disgusting".
As to criminal prosecution, I believe that Russia has anti-extremism laws that are perhaps used all too often for political repression, but could in this case be employed as a force for good. In that context, I just found this
Dissident billionaire Alexander Lebedev has been prosecuted for a “politically motivated hate crime” for hitting another guest on a talk show.
As a precedent, seems perfect.
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Is RT's editor in chief that same person as Margarita Simonian, who were publicly advising to bomb Ukrainian civil infrastructure, including atomic electricity plants, in order to terror Ukrainian population and thereby force this civil population to press on Zelenskiy for surrender.
I see, having Ukrainian children without electricity, water and heat during upcoming winter is much more humane than drowning them. Good for her for condemning her subordinate! Not all Russians are complete fascist. Some of them are more humane fascists.
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I don't doubt it. That's the war strategy used by my country too - "bomb them back into the stone age" was a term coined by a US general during Vietnam (the same one who pushed for Hiroshima, btw) and it's had plenty of use since then. A bit surprised she would call for bombing a nuclear energy plant though. I have looked around for a direct source for that, but no luck as yet.
Children suffering it utterly hateful and warmongering is terrible.
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One of her such speeches
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pp3y18QIt9s
0:08 is the moment she was taking about nuclear power plants - in Russian it is АЭС (Атомная Электро Станция)
But it is missing on auto-generated English subtitles - I checked it.
How "nuclear power station" sounds in Russian you can check here - https://translate.google.com/?sl=ru&tl=en&text=%D0%90%D0%AD%D0%A1%20&op=translate
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I usually avoid watching things like this because youtube translators read like gibberish and as you point out, there are often gaps. Can't rely on Russian Media Monitor either, since that's just a US propagandist translating a Russian propagandist - seems pointless to try to sort that out. So thanks for the source and help with the translation - it's an incredibly stupid thing to say and can't think why anyone would want to listen to her. Sadly, it reminds me of some pundits in my own country who show a similarly casual attitude towards nuclear annihilation.
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Can't rely on Russian Media Monitor either, since that's just a US propagandist translating a Russian propagandist
You know what - I'm not aware of level of propaganda in US - is it lying (for what? and in what?) to own citizens or not regarding war waged by russia against Ukraine, but this is not the case in the situation with russia. Since the real state of thing in russia and in what it is doing needs no any manipulations or exaggerations - it is really bad by itself.
I will omit the fact that russia started war against independent country, is shelling our cities, thousand of missiles landed on our civil objects all over the country. A lot of civilians and defenders of the country were killed and wounded. It is all horrible things that has no any excuses by its nature - here is nothing to object or deny.
I will tell you about russia fascist population by sample of the cement guy here. You may saw some of his posts here and there in this thread. On the first glance some of them looks sane - you can say, here we have an ordinary russian gamer, who knows English well enough to communicate here. So he can read the articles from all media all other the world - not only domestic propaganda staff. Thus we can take serious his considerations regarding the situation - because he is well educated and informed opponent with minimal affection by russian propaganda - he is not an average russian knowing only russian and receiving info only from russian state TV (with news similar to broadcasted episodes from this Simonian's ex-host).
And what? You can scroll a little bit up to see that this cement guy is excusing the situation with ex-host on state TV saying that interviewed person proposed to beat Ukrainian children with wooden sticks instead of drowning them. And that's why cement considered the case with call for genocide (not only kill children - in the end of the episode russian journalist proposed to shoot all the population of Ukraine not welcoming russia ) on state TV is closed, and even more, cement accused us that we are not objective, since we did not take into account such an amendment of the guest (beating with wooden sticks instead of killing)
You see - even most educated and well informed good russians are totally fine with such news on their TV. Moreover, I'm sure his own opinion of how to treat Ukrainian ppl rejecting russia is in range between drowning/burning alive and beating them with sticks in order to make them love his russia.
The real situation of what is Russia and what it is doing in Ukraine is much more worse than your US propagandists can afford to broadcast in your country. Accept this.
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who knows English well enough to communicate here.
I'm sorry to disappoint you, but he doesn't know english and is using a translator, often seen by his mumbo jumbo, which is very hard to understand, like he translated it back and forth 10 times
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Apparently he feels embarrassed now and has been suspended. He says it was due to "getting carried away" ... Because you know... happens to the best of us - we get all heated up and wish for the death of children who oppose your regime. The guy is sick in the head. Embarrassed just because it caught the attention of others not because he feels remorse.
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Tolkien's trolls don't like sunlight, the same goes for Rashist trolls, they don't like exposure to the light of the world.
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I don't think "russophobia" is the right word anymore. Phobia means fear. Nobody fears them anymore, most people just simply hate them and wish them all dead.
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[Video] - Russia is bringing more D-1 howitzers to the frontline in Ukraine
After seeing this lone Soviet World War II-era howitzer, no wonder Putin is begging North Korea for weapons.
Russian military planes keep falling on their own: Russian military jet crashes into a residential building in Siberia, killing 2 pilots
Four videos, scroll down to see them all: https://twitter.com/bayraktar_1love/status/1584134837988134919
My preference goes to the /4, the plane falls like a turd.
Kremlin Rifts Appearing as Putin's Chef Sparks Anger With 'Wagner Line'—ISW
In its latest assessment the ISW, a U.S.-based think tank, said Prigozhin was creating rifts in the Russian government "by publicizing the so-called 'Wagner line' of fortifications in northeastern Ukraine, which appears misaligned with Kremlin-led narratives on the course of the war."
Other maps show the fortification line would only defend the part of Luhansk Oblast that was occupied by Russian proxy forces before the full-scale invasion of Ukraine on February 24.
"Prigozhin and Wagner commanders are likely preparing to defend the positions they think they can realistically hold, not the present extent of Russian lines or all of the territory the Kremlin claims to have annexed, and are likely not confident in Russia's ability to defend settlements north of Lysychansk such as Kreminna and Svatove," the ISW said.
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Russian propaganda could use this video to say "Our pilots sometimes manage to survive, our planes are not 100% flying coffins".
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[Video] - Russia is bringing more D-1 howitzers to the frontline in Ukraine
After seeing this lone Soviet World War II-era howitzer, no wonder Putin is begging North Korea for weapons.
Right. Ukrainian trash should be taken out for disposal. Or remind you how Maxim machine guns (which were brought in 1912) were brought for the volunteer battalions of Ukraine?
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Zelensky dismisses Russian claims that Ukraine plans to detonate a dirty bomb
“Everyone understands everything well, understands who is the source of everything dirty that can be imagined in this war,” Zelensky said.
Well said.
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ISW (institute of study of war) are claiming this to be another attempt by Shoigu just to try to scare foreign ministers. They are doubting Russia could be planning a false flag operation and think this is simply another attempt at seeding fear and pushing misinformation on the field...
If you think about it - people are already talking about this, pro rus people are saying Ukraine wants to murder civilians, pro ua people are saying russia wants to murder citizens and we are back in the wheel of accusing each other even though nothing happens. To some extent this misinformation campaign by kremlin is actually effective...
I mean Russia has been useless against reacting to counter offenses by UA and completely incompetent at detecting threats (Crimean bridge for one, if UA actually did that), but somehow they have intel on some top secret bomb UA is allegedly preparing.... These accusations just seem sad. There is zero ground to believe them.
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