It looks to me like maybe their site was under attack by thieves trawling to steal steam keys.
They probably had to try and stop it in whatever way they can.
They also have a "click to reveal key" on purchased keys as well.
edit:
Though Google and their dam captcha is slowing the internet to an annoying buggy crawl on a lot of sites.
We should start a petition to free the internet from google's grasp.
Or at least make a captcha that works quickly and doesn't require multiple f ' ing retries before it lets you through.
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Often even if I get it right but not at the first try, DIG still says "captcha incorrect" and login fails :/
I can waste entire minutes trying to simply log on somewhere :/
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Indiegala is always quick for me when doing the captcha ,so i'm wondering if it's not just google's fault.
Maybe site owners can set up the captcha to be easy or harder.
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none of the captchas that have "highlight the street signs" work for me on any site, only the "remove all cars" one, it's very annoying.
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I've been literally trying to log on for 10 minutes. The first time the captcha is ALWAYS wrong (try again) regardless of how accurately I do it. The second or third times I finally get it right and I get the green check, and then DIG is not OK with that and says "Error: Invalid email/password or incorrect CAPTCHA. "
I give up.
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I suggest using Chrome and Google captchas are just [X], no solving needed.
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I'm using Chrome and captchas are always "select badly pixelated pictures containing some vaguely defined entities". :(
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Are you logged in with a Google profile? That might be required. It's been ages since I saw them all the time, but recently there was a period of 1 or 2 days when I suddenly got them again, but now back to just [X].
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Yep, also logged in with a Google profile. Nothing seem to help with these obnoxious things :/ some sites will be ok if I do it right after the 2nd or 3rd "try again", but DIG wants me to get it right the first time and it's impossible...
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Guess I'm just super lucky with this, just noticed the worst it can get for me.
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sorry, no idea. i had no probs first time loggin in, in alomst a year now. nice to see i still have $5 worth of their currency. :D
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They change something to the marketplace??? It´s shows me all GUARANTEED games... but not games from other user...
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This page does some crazy scrolling/loading thing every time i come here ,i think it's probably one of the userscripts i have installed
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The store in my opinion fallin down in quantity of game, bad very bad
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not sure why thousands of games vanished it went from 20+ pages to about five
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I asked about it and they said that they're working to overhaul the marketplace. Only guaranteed keys will be available for sale until September 1.
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+1 i couldnt find where i read that again to link, but that's what i thought i read. :D
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So are they actually planning to bring the selling function to work? It's 3 sep already, but nothing changed.
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Postponed again +1 month :-/
We expect this to be live again,
after Aug 15th, 2018.
after SEPTEMBER 1st, 2018.
after OCTOBER 1st, 2018.
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It looks like they did nothing on august, due to laziness or vacation, so they decided to finally start do smth now
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Postponed again. I have so many keys I want to sell. I'm losing hope.
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Don't sell them, give them away here. Problem solved.
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until someone says key is invalid and get a refund before you spend points... try king**n instead, very good support service (it is C2C marketplace & B2C grey marketplace too...)
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I sold a lot of keys on DIG. My negative -> refund rate is like 2%.
And actually none on expensive keys.
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Good to know, thanks. I've sold 200+ keys on DIG and never had anyone say they didn't work. I have 100% feedback...which is surprising because I know how many people take advantage of sellers. I've also bought at least 50 games on there and every one of them has worked.I must be lucky.
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I still like Dig, but with the recent changes to the steam store and the total and utter lack of correctly labeled games, makes me really reluctant to re-up on my DIG points,, I've already bought about 40 bucks in DIG points since they switched over from the old bundle to the new buy cheapo games...
I can't really blame them for failing to block games that aren't really considered games on your account, but I can with games which are inaccurately listed as being one thing,, buying them and redeeming them and being told I already own that game and being out my points..
Also the selling stuff being flat out broken, sucks because it was nice to unlock my duplicate bundle games for games which I don't already own.. sigh,, maybe things will shape up over there, until then I'm spending my last 70 points and not buying anymore..
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This section of the DIG MarketPlace is currently down for maintenance, as we are performing overhaul work.
We expect this to be live again, after OCTOBER 1st, 2018.
Trading of 3rd party keys is suspended until then.
I am still waiting for this section to be up again so I can spend my remaining 3900 dick points. (got forced refund for valid keys by the way, one from humble monthly)
I'd rather not get their own humble bundle keys from there...
Also, that's grey market not from "official publishers" EDIT: they removed that claim...
I hope I'll find a way to spend those points in a meaningful way... it's not like i'd like to buy 780 keys of Crystals of time 👽
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yes, you can topup your account with paypal. -> https://www.dailyindiegame.com/account_topup.html
if you mean do they paypal pay for dig points, then no.
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We expect this to be live again, after JANUARY 1st, 2019.
Trading of 3rd party keys is suspended until then.
RIP DIG
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alive and really kicking here.
this is one of the "best version" of DIG.
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I finally gave up hope and cancelled all of my open trades there, removed the strikethrough from my spreadsheet :P
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I still have a few at the original commission rate, so I don't want to cancel them. :P
I'm still holding out hope. I can't quite fathom how the Marketplace wouldn't make money.
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You should spread your hope and optimism around the globe though
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It made money, but he was getting undercut on the keys he listed -- both in the DIG store and the ones that showed as 'guaranteed'. This way seems to be generating him more money, for the moment.
I used up all my remaining points around when this first started (2 months ago now?) & don't plan on depositing any more, even though some of the store things are tempting (for card farming). Just don't want to support what he is doing w/ the site now.
.... though I gotta say, if there was some 10 or 20% Paypal promo like prior to marketplace ... maybe I'd go to the dark side -
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But he was getting 20% of every Marketplace transaction. Why care about undercutting?
I won't be depositing any more money. If I can't make money on Marketplace to spend, I'll just stop using it. :/
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(ed: i can't get "code" to work, so I'll just use bullet points)
Oh, I argued this of course. I have some conversation with him from early July, when fees increased to 25%.
I have cut some things (in an attempt to not ruffle as many feathers, I guess).
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Hi,
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Fee (20% Trading fee, min 2 DIG Points, rounded up):
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It is in reality taking 25%. I'm having to price stuff a lot higher. Presumably that means less people will deposit money to buy. Didn't it just go from 15% to 20% in the last month or so? I guess I didn't list anything for 3 months, maybe I missed it ..
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regards,
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james
Response (in entirety):
- 15% was an introductory fee.
A bit back and forth after that, and then this response;
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Hi,
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The purpose of the MarketPlace is for people to resell unused bundle keys.
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It’s not a zero fee MarketPlace where people can make money simply copy & pasting games at our expense.
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(big cut)
My response:
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I never suggested that it should be a zero fee Marketplace (a massive cut here. my emails are too long. he also noted this. i agree)
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... let's keep it real here. This MarketPlace exists solely (after the fact note: this was a bit harsh, presumably it was for benefit of all, or this is what I should have assumed at the time) for your own benefit (I'll operate under the assumption that you're a sole proprietor), the fact that it also helps these other people with their goals is what makes it successful. It was and is a good concept. Again, I have never said that it should be free. The initial fee was 15%. It has never been lower than this. I did not complain about it until it was increased to 25%.
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We may as well go on about how eBay could make more money by sourcing merchandise themselves & that the only reason they allow all these outside actors to sell on their platform for 10-16% fees is due to the kind and giving nature of their shareholders (more stuff cut) ...
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Please consider the scaling system I mentioned.
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regards,
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james
..... this scaling system mentioned was where fee is higher up to 50 or 100 pts and gradually decreases. This prevents competition he referred to (but possibly I cut from responses) in regard to otaku bundle stuff. From the complete conversation, this was the main complaint he voiced. I insisted that while it may be possible for him to make more money by doing things differently (like just listing his own keys on marketplace), it would require a lot more effort. What he had was a nice working system where he could profit off of minimal effort. This is what I strive to do myself. Some people are more driven.
It looks to me like he just decided to start reselling all bundled stuff on the DIG Marketplace. My presumption is that the 'AAA Game Store' was very successful, so this is why the Marketplace got gutted also.
ed: oh, I also said that this would likely increase his profit short term, but I cautioned that long-term or even medium-term, this would not be good for his site. perhaps I was (or am) wrong about that. oh, i also said that about 10% or more of the stuff I put on there wasn't bundled. like the street fighters, fract osc, civcity rome, 2dark (it was bundled later), splasher (it was also bundled later), koi musubi, raiden V director cut, and others. hence the thing about the 25% fee making me have to price these too high.
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I sold a decent number of games on Marketplace. Including delisted games and and other rare stuff
Several where I was the only copy that ever went through there. In the $2, $3, $7 price ranges.
I was happy to pay 15% commission on them. Since I got DIG points to pick up bundle games I missed, or secondaries from the Monthlies, or net-positive games with cards. Even all the way at 25%, it was still pretty good for me.
But I'm not going to be putting any more money in.
If I can't get points selling games to people that put the real money in, I just won't be there at all.
P.S. Hello fellow 🎂
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When I first saw these 'guaranteed' keys start appearing and the 'AAA' shop, I figured such a thing was coming.
Maintenance?... right.
Really, it's just some cash grab, reselling bundled keys and what not. It is too bad -- the marketplace was nice (or, rather, it was really nice at 15% fee, nice at 20% fee, and getting a bit funky at 25% -- no warnings, either).
I think short term, this will probably make the guy a lot more money. Long term, I'd hope not. It's his own personal G2A at the moment, I guess.
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sending dig points to another person still available?
i cant seem to find the option, been long since last time i used site.
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Why did they change the layout of the marketplace?! Now the "Steam Web Integration" script is useless because we now have to click on each and every single game title to be taken to it's respective page. UGH.....................................
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Email him about it. He sent out an email like a week ago asking for feedback on the new design.
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They are turning bad decisions into worse, and the annoying short session is still there. :/
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Very odd decision imho. There's no way in hell I'm going to scroll through hundreds of games to manually check if I already own them or not.
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There are filters at the top you can use. Unowned, all games, games from your wishlist, etc.
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Don't work, at least not as intended. Still shows plenty of owned games. That's why the script was so useful. Marketplace was fine the way it was before. Not sure why they made these useless and cumbersome changes.
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Like rongey said. Those filters don't work very well for the type of games "sold" on the site, unfortunately. Steam Web Integration worked flawlessly
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It's not that the filters don't help, they do, but we can't really trust them to work as well as the user script did in the past
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I can vouch for the wish-list part, at least. I've been browsing it off and on all morning, between spamming the forums. (edit: Except possibly DLC, but because I don't often add DLC to my wishlist)
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RIP, be smart and just forget this site, they ruined a nice thing.
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The lack of a marketplace is really unfortunate. That was why I used the site. It doesn't take 8 months to do maintenance.
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Yep, it has been down for months, it would have been far more honest if they said "there will be no more marketplace, it was not profitable/we didn't like it/whatever".
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Riiiiiiiight, because reselling bundle keys from Fanatical/Humble/etc. separately for more money is a sufficient business model.
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They apparently modified the marketplace/create trade message again... but it's wrong lol
"This section of the DIG MarketPlace is currently down for maintenance, as we are performing overhaul work.
We expect this to be live again, after OCTOBER 1st, 2018.
Trading of 3rd party keys is suspended until then."
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I just noticed that all marketplace related buttons and forms disappeared altogether. So, that's it. Gone.
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So, the games that I was selling on the Marketplace have been removed.
Luckily I had a backup of my key list or I would have lost them all.
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I don't even understand why he wouldn't inform us before he removed the keys in the first place and somehow then send them back to us.
I'm not fussed anyway, only had a few.
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LOL, i was expecting that shit to come from the very beginning and have removed the keys back then.
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I see marketplace, dont see the dev store and the bundle leftovers
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Deman... Did you read and understand what I posted when I closed down the old thread? Because this thread should be closed for the same, basic reason. Instead of being an announcement of a bundle or deal, it has become an outpost for the DIG Store. That is not the purpose of the SteamGifts forum. Getting into specifics, ...
- A DIG Store link is used instead of a simple title. A link to the main site might be appropriate as a "help," but the store link is "pushing the limit." Even so, that might be overlooked were it the only unnecessary redirect in the post. Unfortunately, it is not.
- A DIG Support link is included. This is something readily available on the DIG site itself and therefore another unnecessary redirect.
- Also included is a link to a thread which was closed because it promoted the DIG site. The apparent reason for this is to draw attention to the DIG Store, the very reason for which the old thread was closed, thereby circumventing a moderatior's enforcement of the "no advertising" rule.
- The use of shorteners is not allowed on this site. Had this been the only issue, an exception may have been agreed upon due to particular circumstances. With the other problems, however, it is just "fuel for the fire."
- Reading the most recent posts, it would seem that the DIG Store is now defunct. While that has nothing to do with SteamGifts or the validity of this post, it is another reason to close this thread.
What I am seeking, here is your understanding of what you are doing wrong. I want you to understand so that you can avoid making the same mistake(s) in the future and avoid being punished for it. To that end, I am expecting a response from you, one that indicates you "get it," possibly including any questions you have. Once that is done, this thread may end up closed (depending upon what is appropriate).
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Khalaq, the person that made the thread is not the same person that created the thread you previously linked in your post. I am not sure the person who originally made the thread 2 years ago is still maintaining it. Just wanting to make sure you're not blaming the wrong person here is all.
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Thank you for your response. I realize Deman is a different person. I was addressing Deman because Deman is the author of the OP in this thread. While the OP in question was created December 3rd, 2016, and the last posting of Deman in this thread is October 4th, 2018, it seems Deman is still an "active" user on SG. As the points I brought up are relevant to any future postings he may make, I thought it would be a good idea to engage him in this thread rather than simply closing it. I would prefer he not repeat the same mistake in the future out of ignorance, thereby compelling us to punish him for the infraction.
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Deman hasn't maintained or updated this thread since July 2017
It's become more of a "complaint thread" when something happens on DIG.
In other words, I doubt he's going to care if you close it.
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I know right :P , talk about someone blaming a person who hasn't been online in three weeks for the postings of a few current users on a two year old thread that is not even updated by the original user in a long time - talk about jumping in with both feet and realising that the puddle is full of crap LOL
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I was giving him additional information to help him make a determination regarding this thread. That's all.
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I appreciate you volunteering the information. It is not directly related to my reason for posting, but it is good to know and it was given with the intent to be helpful.
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Deman... Did you read and understand what I posted when I closed down the old thread? Because this thread should be closed for the same, basic reason. Instead of being an announcement of a bundle or deal, it has become an outpost for the DIG Store. That is not the purpose of the SteamGifts forum. Getting into specifics, ...
A DIG Store link is used instead of a simple title. A link to the main site might be appropriate as a "help," but the store link is "pushing the limit." Even so, that might be overlooked were it the only unnecessary redirect in the post. Unfortunately, it is not.
A DIG Support link is included. This is something readily available on the DIG site itself and therefore another unnecessary redirect.
Also included is a link to a thread which was closed because it promoted the DIG site. The apparent reason for this is to draw attention to the DIG Store, the very reason for which the old thread was closed, thereby circumventing a moderatior's enforcement of the "no advertising" rule.
The use of shorteners is not allowed on this site. Had this been the only issue, an exception may have been agreed upon due to particular circumstances. With the other problems, however, it is just "fuel for the fire."
Reading the most recent posts, it would seem that the DIG Store is now defunct. While that has nothing to do with SteamGifts or the validity of this post, it is another reason to close this thread.
What I am seeking, here is your understanding of what you are doing wrong. I want you to understand so that you can avoid making the same mistake(s) in the future and avoid being punished for it. To that end, I am expecting a response from you, one that indicates you "get it," possibly including any questions you have. Once that is done, this thread may end up closed (depending upon what is appropriate).
Classic. Absolutely classic.
The cherry on top:
"d3m4n - Role - Member - Last Online - 3 weeks ago"
(◕‿-)✌
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okay, no i had not read the post prior to you closing down that old thread. i no longer maintain(ed) this thread, unsure on status of DIG, nor am/was ever associated with them to begin with other then a customer. i do not see how there is a difference between a bundle thread and this one however. in fact it started out as a direct mirror of how those threads were set up at the time.
1: all bundle threads linked to the purchase page of a direct bundle, not just the main page of said bundle site.
2: that was merely a (failed) deterrent from getting people to request support from this page.
3: again, a (failed) attempt to get people to request support from the actual owner of the website
4: yea, another moderator and i had prior discussed this. i had no choice due to the limitations in characters allowed in posts. i kept hitting the 10k character limit.
5: the one and only place where i actually agree with you and will happily close the thread after defending my prior actions.
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DailyIndieGame Point Store
For Information on the DIG Store please visit the BETTER THAN BUNDLES thread by Exosyphen.
For Support Please Contact DIG Support
I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY MISTAKES OR CHANGES THAT MAY OCCUR
Please double check the games title & insure it can still be gifted here prior to purchasing solely for gifting purposes. The "†" marks are manually added, so they can be inaccurate.
Please note I am not affiliated with DailyIndieGame.com, I am merely a customer who maintains this thread.
Some FAQ's have been answered here by Exosyphen (including pricing and greenlight games questions)
I'm not a normal Bundle thread creator, but saw a few requests for it. I'll maintain it as long as people inform me of changes. Also feel free to let me know of any mistakes.
DIG and/or Charts/Tables are Compatible with the following scripts:
DIG Store Enhancer redirects unsecure links to secure links, dynamic hide/display volume discounts, adds sorting capabilities, displays steam review scores, & displays steam store prices [other features planned]
Sighery's RaChart™ Enhancer highlight games owned based off api & steamid64 or can be changed to steam store logged in method, as well as makes the charts sortable
judgegr's SortableTables excellent for sorting the tables via whatever column you want
Madjoki's modified version of RaChart highlight games owned based off steam store logged in with api & steamid64 method as backup & adds wishlist and not-interested marks
Royalgamer06's Steam Store - Game Owned Checke3r adds a checkbox or x-mark for games owned or unowned based off steam store logged in
Full Changelog here | Partial Changelog here
Continued on the first comment
† = Cannot be gifted on SteamGifts.com
$x.xx* = Estimated Price Based off of Steamgifts Point Value
Goo.gl Legend:
= Steamcardexchange.com (game associated showcase page)
1-20 (number of times bundled) = Isthereanydeal.com (game associated bundle history)
(Sorry I had to use goo.gl shorteners, it was necessary to fit all the information.)
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