This seems as good a place to ask as any... I am not a visual novel fan. I've dipped my toe into the genre a few times, years ago. I am not inherently against playing games that are basically dressed-up, anime-styled CYOA books. I even have a series I'm interested in playing; I'd love to play the "When They Cry" because a friend got me to watch Higurashi/Umineko and I thought it was pretty cool. But, I am basically clueless about the genre. I do tend to roll my eyes at some of the anime stereotypes out there, and I am not interested in pornographic content or gratuitous fanservice. I'd prefer something I wouldn't feel the need to hide from my SO, friends, or family, y'know?
Does this bundle offer anything for people like me? Are there any "must-play" games in the genre? Am I better off leaving it all be?
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By nature of their origin, you're going to get a lot of anime-styled games with anime tropes, and there are quite a few good games that include at least one unnecessary fanservice scene. Still, a couple minutes out of a few (dozen) hours shouldn't be enough that you would have to hide it in shame.
I can't say a whole lot for most of these games, as even though I'm aware of them, I haven't tried them. Like any book, a VN can be one or more of any sort of genre, from sci-fi and fantasy to romance or horror. You can tell, at least, from looking at some of the tags on Steam which games are designed with fanservice as a major aspect, although if you're not interested you're in luck - Sekai Project tends to cut 18+ scenes out of their Steam releases and then sell them back as patches at a premium to interested parties.
If you like sci-fi/suspense with some unrealistic elements thrown in, Root Double is a pretty good work by a master in the genre, even if it's not his best.
Narcissu is a classic, and the version included here has some side stories. If you don't want to read anything depressing, this is not for you, but at least it's not a fanservice game. The original games are actually free on Steam if you want to give them a shot.
If you want something that's not as blatantly anime, there's not much in here I can recommend. The House in Fata Morgana is pretty great, both in terms of story and soundtrack, although it's not without its flaws. It does have some very depressing moments, with some stories playing out like classical tragedies, and if the idea of anything involving gender politics infuriates you, you might not agree with some parts. It's also never gotten a deep discount like anything in this bundle has.
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Anime-style games are fine, I like anime. I don't watch as much of it as I'd like since it has to compete with other interests that I can actually share with people in my life or ones that I'm more invested in, but I like it. Anime tropes are usually fine, too. But some of the most tired ones are boring for me when played straight. If there's a harem surrounding the protagonist, the show/VN/whatever has to be damn interesting otherwise to make up for it. If something is set in a high school, there better be something to make it stand out or else I'm going to yawn so hard that my jaw snaps off. Characters who spout hyperactive super-random humor are all well and good, but they're tiring and I eventually go from laughing early on to waiting until their comic relief bit is over to get back on with the story. Gainax Endings are tolerable, but I prefer to be able to make sense of the plot by the end all other things being equal. And so on. Basically, I want stuff that's good enough to keep a veteran of the genre engaged to the end while also not being something that only a hardcore fan could appreciate.
All that said, I thank you for your suggestion of The House in Fata Morgana. It looks interesting enough for me, and I've added it to my wishlist.
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I dont really mind the people legit hating on Sekai for the bullshit they pull recently ...
But the people who just hate the bundle cause its weeb shit can go fuck themselves right away tbh .
For the fans of the genre thats a must buy bundle at a insanely cheap price , considering historical lowest for almost every single game in the pack .
You dont like it ? dont but it ... simple as that.
Im not going into every fucking topic that includes an FPS game and shitting on it .
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I still don't quite get the "bullshit" thing... most I read is 'gasp they censor Steam games'... which is like, Steam policy. Then it goes to 'reselling patches' but uncensored neko is 20 bucks, and steam it's 10 bucks, patch 10 bucks, so the same price. Again, all fault going to Steam in the first place.
They actually seem to pretty cool to cut the price 50% cause censorship.
Then I see complains about bad translation but the games I've played? It's actually pretty darn good (can't say that about most Western made VN's funnilly enough).
What's the actual hatred for?
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Its actually their kickstarters , and the way they seem to be handling those .
Its really a non issue to be fair , just some people feeling like they didnt get what they paid for , and that the money warent spend in an optimal way , and the end products warent as good as promised .
But it actually exploded kinda ... and it was a massive dispute for and against backing any more of their games on /r/visualnovels
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You know I am actually very happy to see someone who isn't saying it is all trash or all awesome, people seem to love extremes even when, especially when really, it makes no sense whatsoever.
Though in the off chance I buy I wonder if I should go against the usual and give nothing to Sekai because of what they do or do as normal to encourage them to do things like this...
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I wouldn't say to give them nothing - I hate their business practices, but they're gonna continue to publish in the future, and odds are good on them picking up a real gem at some point. If they don't see a worthwhile return on this bundle, the odds that they do anything similar in the future dips deeply. Still, this isn't the first time some of their games have ended up in a bundle, and it likely won't be the last. Even if it were, some of their Steam sales are respectable; Root Double dropped below $10 during the big anime sale a month or two ago, just under a year after releasing. It'd be easy to refuse to do such a sale, given how small a base they're playing to already - some of MangaGamer's releases have been on Steam even longer and still haven't seen more than a 30-50% drop in price, even during sales.
Anyways, I wouldn't feel bad about bumping my charity percentage up more than usual, if I were you.
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You have a point there that nothing is a bit too far, I think I would have rethought that when setting the ratio and probably just decrease it enough to make the point clear. Still, it is way more than they would have gotten considering I would only, maybe, buy a few in sale and Steam takes a big cut when it is through the store.
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bump, thanks!
Great to read these sentiments. I might pick up the games and give to charity/humble majority of the share.
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I mean, it's a bunch of interactive weeb books, by perhaps one of the most loathed publishers among the English VN fanbase, spread across a number of genres.
Right away, you've got about three reasons people would be immediately turned off - not a fan of Chinese picture books, an ingrained hatred of Sekai Project, or too much trash like Nekopara (I expect someone to blacklist me for that claim).
And honestly, I'm really only a fan of the sci-fi/fantasy genres, and I'm fed up with SP's shit, and I still backed the top tier. And you know what? I might buy a second bundle just to give away a copy of Root Double.
If you've followed visual novels at all, one of the seminal English releases was Ever17. The premise seems simple enough - a handful of young people with stereotypical anime personalities get trapped in an underwater amusement park, with days to survive before oxygen runs out or water pressure crushes the structure. With tensions and emotions running high, it doesn't help that nothing is what it seems initially, and in the end it turns from a bit of a slice-of-life/suspense story to a great sci-fi novel with memorable characters and twists despite a horrific localization job. The next entry in the Infinity franchise, Remember11, is even more mind-bending, and still has a large following despite never properly releasing outside of Japan.
The heads of the series went their separate ways after the company more or less folded, but they both still produced memorable works. Kotaro Uchikoshi went on to create the Zero Escape series, an underground hit sci-fi/horror series starting with 999 on the DS, and for better or for worse, even cancellation couldn't keep the series down thanks to the high demand from the English-speaking market. The Zero Escape series tended to explore a lot of the same themes as the Infinity series
The other lead, Takumi Nakazawa, went on to found his own company, Regista. He'd also direct and publish some other great VNs, such as I/O (a great sci-fi story about the difference between dreams, physical reality, and virtual reality, which was somehow even more of a frustrating mindfuck than Remember11) and Root Double, which in a lot of ways was a throwback to Ever17 - a bunch of people trapped with a matter of hours to live unless they can work together and find an escape, with their connections both to events and each other much more intertwined than they initially seem. I/O only ever received a fan translation, unfortunately, but Sekai Project picked up the expanded edition of Root Double for publication in the west, and even brought on the team from the I/O translation for localization.
Of course, Sekai Project wouldn't have been my first choice for the project, and a lot of people likely feel the same way. Even ignoring the whiny behavior of the higher-ups or questionable choices about what gets kept or cut, they regularly miss release dates and refuse to release timely updates, and they've promised nearly a dozen Vita releases over the last three or four years without actually publishing a single one. In fact, until they partnered with someone else last year, they didn't even have a real plan for developing most of the ports they'd promised. Their first console with a concrete date was supposed to be Rabi-Ribi, in December of last year - the release window was even marked on the official PlayStation blog. Naturally, the game still hasn't been published, and to my knowledge they've yet to offer any updates about its status.
Luckily, Root Double was published with minimal delays, at least on PC. The story's good, and the translation's good. Other than the Vita release slipping past its first two release windows (who could've seen that coming?) there's not a lot to complain about. It's a great sci-fi VN, even if it's not necessarily as strong as its predecessors. But is it worth $12? Of course. Did I give away my Kickstarter Steam key to a friend because I had faith that Regista wouldn't let Sekai Project screw up the Vita release? Unfortunately, yes.
I picked this bundle up because I wanted my own Root Double key, and Nekopara titles aside, I might find something else in here I genuinely enjoy. In the meantime, I already had World End Economica ep01 in my library from a bundle two or three years ago. I'll admit I've never tried it, but it's an opportunity for someone to take my spare key and see if they want to pick up this bundle for further entries into the series:
https://www.steamgifts.com/giveaway/9KXX6/world-end-economica-episode01endedFor now, that's the only giveaway I've got. The Nekopara titles are going up soon (see bottom), so don't blacklist me just yet if you want a stab at them. And if you don't want to throw away $12 on my own recommendation of Root Double, take a look below.
UPDATED: Here's a Root Double giveaway (basic SGTools checks): http://www.sgtools.info/giveaways/afa47ed8-4af1-11e7-91df-fa163ee2f826
The giveaway's open until 4PM eastern time next Tuesday, so you've still got another week to buy the game if you don't win.
UPDATED again: Here's a Nekopara train, for all your catgirl-sex needs, or whatever the hell these games are actually about. Lv1 + Lv4 GAs, ending Sunday afternoon (eastern time).
UPDATE: World End Economica GA is over, but I've got most of a second bundle to give out chunk-by-chunk. Here's Sound of Drop -fall into poison-, which I've also never played.6/8: Today's giveaway is Japanese School Life, because we needed more tired anime tropes in our lives.6/9: This time I've got Idol Magical Girl Chiru Chiru Michiru Part 1. I guess it's some sort of spinoff/parody of the Grisaia series? I've never played this or the source material, so I can't tell you what to expect. Only other things I can glean from the Steam reviews are that the price was jacked up and the translation is questionable, so basically a quintessential Sekai Project release.
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