So with this update you are trying to show us all that we misjudged you?Is this the whole purpose of your "update" to show us that you are actually a good guy? You can actually do something good go and contact the seller explain to him the situation and offer to him just to send the price shown on the price tag to his paypal.?
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His update is sarcasm. I'm not even sure he understood that the key is permnanently used now.
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His just stating that he does not like the game and remove it :l why is it even sarcasm.... but yea his in the wrong for taking without permission and removing the game is more of a scum act =(
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wow you're so edgy, I wish I could be as cool as you
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Check that second comment on his profile ..
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So we now know he's racist, is a thief, doesn't activate his wins and has vac bans.
Lol, why do people like this always advertise the fact thery're dicks to the SG community? He'll be on blacklists everywhere now.
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I don't think that message quote has him in there; at least this user never had any of the names listed there according to the past names list.
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Could just be too old for it to show up on the past names list?
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Highly doubtful considering the quote is a week old.
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Good and valid point. I still say it is way too unlikely. Not impossible, but I don't think so a trader would keep a comment like that in the open for a week if it was about him.
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He has other comments that speak bad about him ... so maybe he just doesn't care.
EDIT: Plus from the sounds of the comments on his profile he has an alt account.
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I think we found a genuinely toxic fellow straight outta 4chan /pol/.
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I just don't understand why did you remove it afterwards. This way it's activated, the winner won't be able to use it, and neither you can o.O Next time at least keep it lol, this way noone will be able to enjoy it, one CD key just out of the window :(
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I think the person who posted on ebay did not realize that it could be redeemed on Steam and i am not sure if Prey had online for the key to really matter and even it did i am sure by now it is long dead.
Either way the OP stole the key as they did not have permission to use it.Though at least they removed it but i suspect only because of regret of not liking it not a moral thing as if they where using them they would have not did it from the start.Still it was a dick move.Sure it did not say if the key was used or not on Steam but what if someone contacts them and asked if it has and they said no and someone buys it on the basis?They will call the seller a liar and maybe leave bad feedback and so on.
Either way it is used not little that can be done.
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Seller knows about the issue, so they can warn the buyer and tell them that the code will only work on the installed game now but not on Steam.
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I am not trying to be a smart ass but how do you know the seller is aware?I mean if they knew why would they even post the key like they did?
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Maybe what he means is that the seller has been contacted about the situation already.
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Oh yeah ...well i guess you can say derp on me lol
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Because this is a letter I got from the seller. :)
Will you let hardscopin420 know I have reported them to the police for theft and fraud, so there will be an investigation. Their account will probably be closed too. Thanks for letting me know. Many thanks.
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Well then good for them...
Though in the end it is the OP fault for making it public that they took it and helped this seller out more then i think they figured.If they did not admit to doing it there would be little the seller could have done as far as legal stand point because him just having a pic of the key does not prove he took the key from Ebay.Someone else could have got the key and sold it to them for example.Since they admitted guilt of taking it though he may have in fact hung himself.
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Yep. It is not the fact that he took the key, because the seller was super careless. But being dumb enough to brag about it. On a public forum. That is whole new levels of stupid.
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Wow, you took douchebag title to a whole new level, i'm proud of you!
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" I would never steal, scam or do something againts my morals or something else that's illegal"
"I was browsing eBay randomly because i was bored and i searched for Prey PC. I found this auction, which in the pictures it shows the cd-key of the game. I activated it and it actually worked (lol), "
So much fail in one post lol
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inb4 SJWs blacklist you for life :^( you such a bad guy omg ;^(
Also, why did OP got suspended? Because of this post? lol
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People can be suspended for being shit people if the view is unanimous :3
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Why not just pirate the game if you want to steal the game? At least then you're not screwing over anyone else.
Oh wait, that wouldn't have been as "cool" right? So edgy of you to steal that guy's game mate, we're all so proud of you.
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What kind of idiot posts a picture with a key in it? Even if this didn't allow it to be activated on Steam anyone using torrents to get their games could have downloaded some "cracked" version and used the key to make it legit instead.
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What kind of idiot admits that they are a bad person to a bunch of his peers because he basically stole a key? I would have tried to contact the seller and tell him that he might want to edit the key from his pic. I'm pretty sure that there is SOMEONE else in this world who also saw the key and could have done the same as the OP but they had morals and were honest.
I cleared my Blacklist awhile back with the intention of not using it. Thanks to the OP for restoring my faith in idiocy again. You have been rewarded. Don't get a big head and think that you are special.
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It's not a standard Steam key format and looks like they don't know that these CD keys can be activated on Steam, resulting in a fairly expensive item. Sadly, common when people sell something they are not exactly familiar with… :/
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o.o the guy says it isnt stealing, but taking something which does not belong to you, yeah thats stealing.
now the key is dead in the water due to being used already.
so knock off another wasted game because someone got curious about a game they didnt even want, or have the rights too.
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So this is what one of those guys who tries to rob a convince store while still in their McD's uniform, including name tag, is actually like.
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I would do the same, that's why the owner of the cd-key had to censor it the first place.
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Seriously thou - why only 5 day suspension for non-activation? The guy admitted himself that he stole a key. He bragged about it. Last time I checked Scamming/Stealing was Permaban.
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and? So if I go on SCAM rampage, scam hundreds of users, brag about it on SG, heck - maybe even scam items just to make GAs with them - should I be fine as long as I just make sure to check that none of people I scam have SG account? Imho scammer is a scammer. No mater if I scam people on Trade section or if I scam them on some other website. If I'm proven to be a scammer, even better - if I admit to being a scammer and to scamming from other people I should not be allowed into this community. It doesn't make huim any less guilty that he scammed from some random dude, not someone who is on SG...
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He didn't scam anyone. Stealing and scamming are different. I never said he's less guilty, I'm just saying he did nothing else wrong on SteamGifts to deserve a longer ban.
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He bragged about stealing a key on the Steamgifts forums. That should be realted enough...
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"Stealing and scamming are different"
In this context they're both theft.
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hmm, so if I hack into your email, log into your steam account, steal all your gifts, spend all your money and send gifts to myself, take all your CSGO skins, keys other items etc - you will be fine with it I understand? After all I should not be punished - I didn't scam you, I only stole from you :>
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You shouldn't if you didn't fail to meet any of SteamGifts' guidelines or terms of service. And he didn't, except for his non-activation.
About the stealing and scamming part, I was just correcting your misuse of words. Stealing is no better than scamming and I never expressed the contrary.
And I wouldn't be fine with it obviously, and I never said I would. Though, it isn't in the rules.
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you would be punished by Steam (and possibly actual law enforcement), but not by SG
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we're discussing SG here. What other repercusions tere are elsewhere is unrelated. If I scam you you have the right to perform legal actions - you can report me to police, report me to Steam, report me on SteamRep - so I should not be suspended on SG and be free to scam again here, because I may be punished elsewhere already? Should we unsuspend any permabanned Scammer who got tagged on SteamRep? Because they already got punished on SteamRep - why should we punish them as well? Well because Scamming/Stealing is against the basic principles of this community. We should not want scammers here regardless if they scam from fellow SG users or just Scam from people elsewhere than SG Trades section. Ofc we should not jump into cuonclusions and permaban anyone who got reported elsewhere. But in this particular case OP admitted to stealing himself.
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I understand why you would want that but AFAIK this is how any online entity works. They'll punish you for violating THEIR T.O.S., not anybody else's, linked as the communities may be.
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no, because people post these keys concieously for others to take. If you take something from someone who offers it to you for free it's not a theft. If you take something from someone unaware it is a theft.
If you visit me at my house and comment "wow, that's some nice and fancy wine glass" and I say to you "hey man, if you like it you can have it, I have 7 mpore of these" - you are not stealing it, it's not a theft. If you wait for opportunity and when I go to toilet you take the glass and hide it in your bag - you are commiting a theft. Clearly Auction creator was not willing to give awqay key freely to anyone who want's it, he was intending to sell it, he made a mistake - but it doesn't change the fact that OP stole a key from him and OP is a thief.
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the blatant difference is intent. keys posted in the forum are being given away intentionally. the ebay seller just made a careless mistake.
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Yes a theft. The fact that there is an opportunity to commit a crime doesn't mean that you are free to commit a crime or that there is no crime. If you leave your wallet at the table and I come to it and take all your money am I not stealing from you because you gave me an oportunity? If you leave your bike in front of a store and forget to chain it am I free to jump on and drive away? Because you gave me an opportunity so I didn't commit a theft? If you leave your credit card at the bar and I copy (aka steal) your CC number and CVV2 code and then use it to buy myself thousands of dollars of stuff is it ok? Because you gave me an opportunity to steal your CC info so I am free to use it and take your money from you and it's fine?
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A theft is a theft. It does NOT cease to be a theft just because the victim is a moron. If everyone though like you do, the wrld would be a much darker place than it already is.
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Funny there was a case like this in the UK where someone posted a gambling slip where they had won and someone redeemed the code from the photo.
Was the poster stupid? Yes. Did the person who redeemed the slip get arrested? Yes, because it's theft. The slip did not belong to them and they redeemed it.
If you walk into a shop and someone has scratched the codes off of Apple gifts cards and you use one without buying it, do you really believe you're not stealing?
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I've seen scammers permanently suspended who didn't approach anyone via the site, no trade topics, etc.
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hmm ill agree would be nice to see his type flushed, but with great power comes great responsiblity.
which basicly means they could flush him, but there showing restraint.
but from the way he speaks and acts he may screw up again and lead himself into a hole.
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Hmm, I think if you consider the Steamgifts consequences of this business, i.e. nothing, I doubt we'll see anything permanent from this...
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yeah, guess you're right :/ Still no idea why the certain fellow is still around - when info got leaked on reddit he got banned from other GA sites, yet still free to profit from SG :/
But at the other hand - maybe he didn't break any SG rule, maybe nothing covers blackmailing devs. But we have rules about scamming / stealing games - and OP admitted to stealing game from another person.
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http://www.steamgifts.com/roles/guest
Note that the suspension is called "Scamming Users". Not "Scamming", but specifically "Scamming Users"
I think it would be overzealous to hold someone accountable for something that has nothing to do with SG. It's like if we suspended for not activating a game won on SteamCompanion.
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Well, first of all my opinion is worth nothing... :)
But I think it's possible to say no, what person X has done is not against our rules, but we have decided to remove person X from the community anyway. :)
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Of course we could do that (from the ToS, " SteamGifts may terminate your access to all or any part of the Website at any time, with or without cause, with or without notice, effective immediately"). I wasn't saying we can't do it, but that I think we shouldn't.
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If I were cynical, I'd say that perhaps the person is still around because that way SG is still free to profit from him... :( But I'm not that cynical... :)
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If you were in my place what would you do? Just stare at it?
I would contact the seller and inform him he is an idiot and needs to censor the code. The code isn't mine, nor is it being given away. I have no right to activate it, and it would be against my morals to do so even if everyone else justifies with the excuse "It's just the internet".
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By that time somebody else would've activated it probably,so the guy selling it would've been screwed anyways,it's really seller's fault for not being aware of what he was doing and playing dumb, this guy capitalized off of that,even tho it's " against morals " he can still do it ,but posting it on a forum to look like a cool kid wasn't the best idea.
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The thing is, he didn't even capitalize off of it. He just activated it and then got Steam to remove the game from his library. It was a complete waste of a game.
Informing the seller wouldn't have hurt at all, but instead he pulled a dick move just for the sake doing it and not to benefit from it.
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He just activated it and then got Steam to remove the game from his library.
I think he's trolling, i want a screencap of that.
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Well, assuming he listed it for 30 days (as there are 28 days left on the listing and 30 just makes sense), it probably would've been up for 36 hrs or more before the OP took the key, so it seems pretty plausible that the seller could've covered it before someone else came along and took it if the OP had told him the key was visible instead of just taking it for himself. It's even more plausible seeing as how quickly he took down the picture after people from this forum informed him of what happened.
EDIT: Edited for clarity!
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And since when was "well, the individual probably wouldn't have had time to get someone to lock their house before someone stole from it" a valid justification for robbing the house yourself, anyway? :P
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That's not what I meant, I was saying that if the OP (or someone else) had warned the seller that the key was shown in the picture, the seller would have had time to cover it up before someone else took it.
This was to refute what antipativome said about the key going to be taken even if the OP had warned him.
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That's not what I meant
People have this exasperating habit of assuming everything is going to be an argument :P
I was agreeing with and adding on to your point. :)
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I don't think so, after all he is suspended for it right now.
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No doubt someone reported him for it after this thread. xD
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No need to report, TempeteJoachim posted in the thread. XD
Making a topic like this is like shouting "Here I am, support! Ban me if you can!"
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Fucking hell, this is the best Easter gift ever! Thank you op for being such a colossal douche.
I cannot stress enough how much of a fucking asshole you are for doing what you have done today. Luckily you were stupid enough to brag about it online.
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Well, he's been blacklisted by me and I made a little post on his Steam profile, he'll probably delete it soon enough, but oh well. Not much more I can do here.
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I don't know what's dumber. Activating the key, or coming to SG and bragging about it. And then trying to make it look like it was no big deal.
Well, at least I can put finally someone on my blacklist. There are like 3 people on it. So only for absolute assholes. Congratulations!
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Activating a key you found online isn't dumb,it's an asshol-ish thing to do, but activating it AND THEN MAKING STEAM REMOVE IT from your account is what's dumb.
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nope. it's even more asshol-ish thing to do - you take a key but not even for your own gain but just for the sake of hurting another person. It's mega asshol-ish. Activating a key, then making steam remove it, then posting a thread on public forum showing off how edgy you are is what's dumb :>
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Bump so rest of sg can see what an dumbass you are ^^
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It's already resolved, get a life
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