Steam Ruined Steamgifts?

Well, you're not wrong about the amount of crap that exists on steam now, but it doesn't really affect my SG experience much since I only check the wishlisted section, and occasionally the "recommended" one :3

Agreed and validation

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yeah, it did change my experience on SG.. now i win a lot more then i would of if the "crap" didn't exist.. so it changed my SG experience for the better.

Free crap for everyone!

Is it really that much worse than it was five years ago? They opened it upto the masses so instead of the shittier games coming from bad studios they now also come from bad indie developers. The Valve putting money over making cool stuff ship sailed long ago.

I kinda agree and disagree tbh .

Yeah there is tons of shit being pushed on steam on a daily basis , but in the same time there are some really nice games that get in among all the trash , which would probably not made the cut otherwise .

I just add anything that seems good and i think i may play to my wishlist , and just browse that .

Yeah i may skip something thats on the main page and its actually good , but i just cannot be asked to browse trough pages and pages of whats currently in a bundle .

And i have way to much free time when im supposed to be working , so i tend to dedicate some time browsing recent releases and categories i am interested in , so my wishlist consist of pretty much most stuff on steam that i consider good for one reason or another .

Thats just me tho :)

Well, I have only been on SG for a month now so I can't compare, but honestly I appreciate that Steam has become a place for all games and doesn't just handpick certain games to go on their site. Also, you never know if there's just the right crap for you.
When it comes to SteamGifts, I usually go to the wishlist section first and then spend the rest of my points kn whatever pops up on the frontpage. As I said I can't speak of the past experience, but isn't it amazing to find an awesome game amongst the horde of shitty games giveaways?

Agreed. I stopped entering giveaways a few years ago, the forum is the only reason I'm still visiting this site.

When you walk into a supermarket, it's full of terrible products they tend to label as "food". Fortunately there are good ones as well, and you have the option of selecting those.
Same goes with steam: there terrible games and very good ones. You don't have to be a collection addict, just get the ones you like and you'll likely play with in the future.

Plus there are games that are underrated, so don't always fall for the opinion of the masses (even though most of the time they are right ;))

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Some frustrations

I like it, fulfils my OCD urges :P

You may be correct, Ive seen so many games that look pointless and they should probably just remain on facebook xD but this is the best place for games on PC so its normal to expect everyone and everything to be here.

Blame the users that give away that crap games not Steam, everyone is free to give away AAA games.

Luckily you can hide games these days, so you'll never have to see them again.

You have it wrong.
There was always crap on steam (like for example http://store.steampowered.com/app/19500/ )...the only difference to long ago (like the game i linked and came out almost 9 years ago) is that those indie devs does not need a publisher anymore (which was almost always the case years ago...as it was easier to get on steam with one)....and of course years ago indiedevs where a lot less then nowadays....so even if steam would have made stuff like greenlight etc. 10 years ago already, the gamecount would not have been the same as now.

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Although the amount of shovelware has gone up a lot with both greenlight AND the vast amount of bundle sites out there there is the occasional "gem" coming through.
As for SG there is a number of tools you can use to tailor the site to your preferences, from the different filters(wishlist, group, recommended) and the Hide function to the countless userscripts you can find in the forums.

they ruined people with region-locked games.
i get tired of seeing crap games around and i can ignore them, but i can't get past restrictions.

The more, the merrier.

http://steam-community.com/?ref=hwszPkN

More like: Valve ruined Steam, Steam Gifts is a collateral victim. Greenlight is a literal double-edged sword:

1. on one hand, it makes it possible for talented yet poor indie devs to release their games on Steam without getting scammed by greedy publishers;
2. on the other hand, its relative lack of quality control makes it possible for less talented devs to release mountains of shovelware, quite often by "bribing" users with review keys (or massive giveaways), and with the promise of trading cards (a.k.a. free money),
   • it's a win-win situation, +1 for the users, and free money for everyone involved, including Valve themselves (hence why they want it this way).

But who is the main culprit? Greenlight for being so easily exploitable? Valve for not doing quality control? Or the users who upvote trash?
The system itself is a good addition to Steam, but the way it's being operated is less than optimal.

And sometimes it makes me regret having the Greenlight Developer Access fee really high in my wishlist, as I fear that if, and when, I'll eventually try to release a game, getting it Greenlit will be really hard, unlike those shovelware titles who just need to have cards to succeed.