I would like to thank you very much for making this event! :)
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How does it work ? Is when giveaway ended we will receive game or by luck ?
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They are like other giveaways on the site, but they end at the same time (and they are in special boxes, you can only open 5 a day). Winner is randomized, yes.
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Are 1000+ people just stumbling upon the same random full value boxes or something? You'd think the whole secret giveaway thing would make winning a bit more likely but apparently not :S
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If you look at a random boxes GA, prefered for a good/high priced game, then you will see a lot of entries from accounts that i clearly declare as multiaccounts.
They are so obvious not normal users that it is a shame.
Easiest example are fresh created sg accounts (can happen but not in that high ammount), steam level 6 (mhm), 25 games (sure...), nearly all from asia or from other countries but using at the profiles only asian languages^^ (i think at that point should each one say the "coincidences" are very high^^).
So, in short, really bad made multiaccounts that each blind one would spot. And they appear, much more, at the good/high priced GA's as at the small ones (that to "none known what's in a Box" -it counts only for the ones that use one account and that don't share the infos in groups, that they don't know it)
I am traced a good bunch back and sended the support the collected infos and to which countries, groups and so on it lead.
But i had only time for a really tiny look into 2 GA's -but that was more as i wanted to see to be honest-.
In the end a ""few"" peopel destroy the fun/a part of the fun for a lot of other ones.
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hey we can hope its a honeypot trap - to see all those with multiple accounts :P
buuuuuut I doubt it
honestly though at this point I think I have bothered to open about 30 or 40 boxes so the chances of me finding those "good" boxes (subjective cause I like some of the games that others think are poop) are slim at best
still its all fun I guess :P
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Don't get me wrong, the event is still a great thing :o)
... but the chances to win get massive decreased from all the multiaccounts and ("good") Giftboxes sharers.
But the lower chance don't frustrate me, it frustrate me that this multiaccounts are so extreme obvious and no thunderstorm of bans rush through them (i assume at the two Ga's i, partly, checked are 50% of the entries from multiaccounts).
And i think it should be give a automatic system against the ultra obvious multiaccounts (the decribed ones above -and i forgot that a good bunch of them use "Name123", "Name127", "Name198", not the same name but on top of the other "coincidences" it is one puzzle part more...-).
Why are steam level 6 accounts allowed ? I don't understand that to be honest.
You can reach that for absolutely free, without effort. Not to speak from all the events over the years that gave a lot more of XP's for free (so level 20 are for real users no problem). So should it be no problem to set a steam minimum level of 15 or 20 as example to close at least the worst/lowest alt accounts out (or let them pay a bit for trading cards = the lowest multiaccount users will not spend that money).
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Doesn't Steamgifts require a $100 value account. Do these level 6's meet that or do I misremember?
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You are right, that min. value exists BUT of course know that multiaccounters how they can abuse/exploit the cv system.
Mostly, they act from countries were it give very cheap games that, still, give full cv (on top).
So for real users that want to enter sg is it a fitting rule. One of my fem. friends joined sg after i gave her around 180 games for her account. Without exploiting, abusing, optimizing and so on, with the games i had lay around.
For the people that know how to cheat the system are only 5-10 games needed.
I am very sure that a few, lvl 1-3, accounts will loose the site access as soon as all add game tickets from me are handled.
Of course is that rule about it very difficult because it is nearly impossible to make it fitting for real people and prevent the abuse throught the black sheeps.
I don't have a better system that i would be able to present but i would be happy about each brainstorming or maybe solutions from other users.
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Oh and before i forget... a good bunch in my discord like your handmade things :o)
Your work and you are very well known there.
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If I want to be 101% positive and naive, then I'd just say that they are a LOT better at reading box-hints than I am. Weird to stumble on one of the big RPG hits of recent years, with the GA being created 20 hours ago and has 1600 entries. Quite crazy level of participation from the community... though don't want to get into chances and probability, I'm fairly sure that daily 10 peeks make people check a lot of boxes ( I think I checked and then didn't open 7-9 boxes daily, and had 2-3 blind picks - which means I checked 9-12 individual boxes a day, not negligible from the average daily number of boxes created... I don't think there are too many of them.
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I'm fairly sure that daily 10 peeks make people check a lot of boxes
That's most certainly what it is. I've been able to easily pick and choose what I enter, and only enter to win games I'd like. Take into account the sheer number of users on the site, and a decent giveaway could easily accrue 1000+ entries in a short time. Other people seem to always see some sort of "wrong-doing" and point fingers at some great evil on Steamgifts when they don't win every giveaway they enter.
It's really a pity those people have nothing better to do.
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Yeah, got a little rambly late at night with my comment, I felt I needed the edit about thinking the chances, despite I really wanted to avoid numbers. It's great if it was reasonable!
If we use that GA of cg as base with 8k entrants, and expect 100 new GA , and 12 average new boxes opened and/or peeked daily, we basically get 1k as the average visitor for a box ( 8000*(12/100). It's not as weird to have 30% more, especially if the box art makes it compelling.
I guess it just pops up in our mind as weird because when it's a big GA, but then people also want to enter for it - it was also a trend that new GAs had more entries because people don't really go back to old ones, even if they join late.
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But that GA should have a bit more numbers than usual considering its circumstances... it makes sense why people would be drawn to it. Having 1000+ people clicking on this random box out of hundreds just feels a bit off for me, but I'm not sure how much I want to bring out the tinfoil hat and negativity here.
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I don't have place for tinfoil hat, my head is occupied
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Depends on the design. If it sticks out (like, say, anime boxes which I generally see are more joined GAs than any other) its probably people being intrigued. If it's the blandest box imaginable, yet still lures everyone in... then it seems more suspicious.
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In the future, a feature to filter boxes by level would be appreciated!
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Thanks for adding peeking! I've already seen some boxes with RDR II or Cyberpunk, which upon peeking did not have the game. Also, if you are the kind of person who does this... well that's just rude
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Awe https://www.steamgifts.com/happy-holidays/available/search?metascore_min=80 dose not work. Ah well it would have been cheating anyways/
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I opened a pack with the "avaiable" function active, and the game in the pack is https://store.steampowered.com/app/901399/Sam__Max_The_Devils_Playhouse/, but i already have it on steam.
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It's the same problem in the boxes, as they have on the GA page - they aren't properly identified I think. Like how you can enter for GOTY versions still after owning them, sorry :(
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You own all the parts of the game that are included in this app. But you don't own exactly the package for which giveaway was made for:
- on Steam game has appID of 901399
- when you go to your all-games tab you will not see this game listed there. Instead you will see: The Penal Zone, The Tomb of Sammun-Mak, They Stole Max's Brain!, Beyond the Alley of the Dolls, The City That Dares Not Sleep. Each has different appID, and when you click on the link to store page you will not be re-directed to the game you own. Instead you will be redirected to the page of individual episode. Like this
What SG does is take appIDs of the games or DLC returned by SteamAPI, and compare it to appID of the game you try to enter. In this case they are different, and SG treats them as different titles.
It's the same when it comes to GOTY versions like adam wrote - Witcher 3 has appID 292030, and Witcher 3 GOTY has 124923. When SG compares your library against giveaway it sees you don't have this particular appID (or in this case subID) and allows you to enter, even when you own the base game.
Steam is messy. If it would report you own all 5 episodes and that it makes you own the whole game - it would not be a problem. But it doesn't. I don't know if it's possible to compare content of subID with appID, and filter GAs based on this. But it would not solve your problem, as your game is treated as an app, and list of the apps activated is listed in the description.
Same reason why it's not possible to enter say Hitman 2 GAs when you own only first free episode - Steam reports you have appID of the base game, and for SG it means you own the whole game. It can't know if you have all the episodes or only 1st one though, because it's not reported, and episodes are treated as DLC (that are not visible on your all-games tab...).
In short: way how Steam organizes (or allow devs to organize their games...) is a mess, but it's fine from their perspective, as you can't buy thing you have 2nd time, or it can't be gifted to you through Steam 2nd time. So it just works >:D
I may be wrong in some details, but that's how it works in general.
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Thank you for the Reply, isn't a big problem but i report forse knowledge. Bye!
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The link would stay the same so the only real result is making finding new boxes harder and forcing you to browse all of them?
I'm... not seeing a benefit?
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Yes, I wrote that prior to realizing that boxes have their own link. So there is nothing to find/hide.
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So since this (super awesome) event is already running some time:
Did you guys find a personal gem or something that you can't wait to get your hands on? I try to always search for "Hades" clues but since it was not in a bundle yet, thats very unlikely to be included.
Other then that I got jebaited by the "peek" only once with "Quantum suicide".
So what did you found on your hunt? [Please keep in mind to not share hints or reveal presents; Its a fun event so don't ruin it for each other :) ]
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I would love to giveaway Hades (bought it twice myself), and for me the problem isn't being bundled (they deserve full price from me), but that they aren't on other storefronts and steam region restrictions are very stupidly done. My hope is that they'll come to GOG or Humble Store (which isn't all that great for gifting nowadays either) or somewhere else eventually.
As for event - I more on a lookout for creative box designs, and so far there weren't that many as previous years. But there is still plenty time to go so I'm being hopeful and excited ^_^
And have a great holiday time, dear sir, and luck with catching that Hades giveaway! I saw a forum event with a few copies somewhere, so you might want to get on that!
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The 3D billiard table still blows my mind everytime I scroll through.
Thank you also for the kind hint, I will take my chances there.
Hope you have happy holiday time and not too much hassle with that annoying panamic tip his hat
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So what did you found on your hunt?
I would but as cg said...
No spoilers. Please do not share what games you found or what was contained inside of a gift box.
So I'll just say that I am pleasantly surprised with the number of unbundled games I was able to find, and I have been compelled to enter GAs for two thirds of my reveals (20 out of 30) which I'm pretty sure is at a much higher rate than the 2 other official holiday events I have taken part of.
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Thats why I added something behind the question in brackets ;)
Thats a super high ration, from my point of view. Way to go man! Hope it will continue for you like this :)
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I seem to remember in a previous holiday event there was a way to view the boxes in 2D instead of the spinning 3D (to reduce CPU usage). Does anyone remember how to do this? It might have been a third party tool.
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The Lidl boxes... hahahaha!
Those are great, whoever made them!
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I'm glad this event is back... Creating our box is the most fun part! ^_^
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Thank you for the improvements this year. Next year would it be possible to prevent packages from being used as gifts? There are so many choices available, even with peeking, it's disappointing to waste an open on something you already have. Anyway, thanks to everyone contributing!
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Having a good time hunting down Cjcompex`s boxes, still missing 2 though.
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Welcome, new Steamgifts citizen!
As it is tradition around here, we not only warmly welcome our n00bs, but kindly point them to our FAQ and Guidelines, to help them avoid misunderstandings and common mistakes that could lead to unpleasant circumstances.
Good luck with the loot hunting in our boxes :D
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Welcome to SG. :-)
If you haven't already, please also read the ToS, since eeev already pointed out the FAQ and Guidelines.
A few more interesting links for a new user:
https://www.steamgifts.com/discussions/announcements
https://www.steamgifts.com/discussion/XaCbA/list-of-all-cv-levels-and-their-corresponding-real-cv
https://www.steamgifts.com/discussion/GeDfy/failure-to-activate-and-regifting
https://www.steamgifts.com/discussion/z5iPh/psa-make-sure-the-game-you-receive-is-the-one-promised-to-you
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I like the new peeking feature. I wish to see it again next year.
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Hmm I just noticed that giveaways from the event ends in 12 hours but on the events page I can see banner saying that The day ends in 14 hours.
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What time does the event day start/end?
The Holiday Event main page on this last day doesn't specify, and only says "Choose a gift box below to open. Each box was created by a user in our community and unlocks a holiday giveaway. You can open 5 gift boxes each day until December 25, 2020."
EDIT: Now that I opened all my gifts for the day, it shows "Please wait 8 hours", so perhaps that's 00:00 UTC/GMT?
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Thank you for the event!
Merry Christmas!
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Hmmmm. The event says I still have an hour left but won't let me open or peek into anything? Guessing the timer's off compared to the event code? Boo. I was waiting for the last minute giveaways. Ah well. Thanks All!
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Giveaways ended 7 minutes ago so that's why You can't open or peek anything.
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Yea, unfortunately I based my alarm off of the "time left" on the page. Still says I have 1hr left to open boxes. shrugs Off by one errors are pretty common in coding, but I figured it was worth raising the issue for next year if they plan on reusing the code.
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same here, lost some openings, neverthless great event, some boxes were looking really impressive.
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Could you reveal the name of the games underneath the gift boxes?
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Now that the events over, can we look at all the boxes now? i wanna ask the creators what art they used for x n y boxes that i missed out on. since you can only enter the boxes to ask what wrapping it is
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You can open image from box using "view source" function of your browser.
There will be permalinks of the images, used as box covers (most of them from imgur).
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ooooh thats awesome! luckily i could go back in my history to review the boxes now that the link is gone. a big THANK YOU!
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I want to open all boxes too, just so I know what could have been (and present openings are fun)
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Hi SG,
Santa has been running a little behind schedule, but the gift boxes have made another return to SteamGifts for 2020! There have been a few tweaks this year which are noted further below.
https://www.steamgifts.com/happy-holidays
How it works
Creating a gift box and giveaway
Opening gift boxes
Changes for 2020
How it works:
You can peek into 10 gift boxes each day. When you peek in a gift box, you'll see a random number of games (2-4) and one of them is contained within the gift box. You can then decide whether or not you want to open the gift box. This should stop trolling because if a user creates a box with the design for a highly desirable game, you can peek to see if it's actually one of the options. It should also help everyone to find boxes that better interest them, while still keeping a bit of mystery and excitement in the event.
No spoilers. Please do not share what games you found or what was contained inside of a gift box.
Happy holidays!
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