Hey MrTrk/76561198340271112,
same answer as last time: https://www.steamgifts.com/go/comment/HOhuPZa
It looks rather bad when you requesting to join several groups at once, not caring for their rules & requirements.
Edit: It is rather funny to read that you have "Adding Rules" on you Steam profile. Why do you expect other Steam users to follow those, but here on Steamgifts you do not care for the "adding rules" of groups?
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The group is only for those who have less than 8 wins, so you don't qualify.
You can request to join as a gifter but please check the main post for what is desired of you in that regard.
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You got to love how deleting comments seems like a good idea to some.
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This same user was accepted into another group recently, proceeded to break their rules immediately on multiple occasions even after being warned and was later kicked from that group. So, you absolutely made the right call 👍
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sorry. somehow missed that. for some reason I saw you had less than 7 reduced+full value ones. my mistake. was too sleepy at the time.
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Hey Aradiel/76561198324828151,
as your full CV game "Rolling Toolman" seems to be a gleam freebie that is just don't set to no CV yet, I have to decline your request.
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price increases aren't that unusual for early access games as they come closer to release.
lower price at the start for those who help fun development, higher price for those that want a more finished product.
PS your GA for Planet of War: The Legend of Fu is likely to have issues as the dev seems to have revoked keys(going to go out on a limb here and suspect giveaway. su didn't have permission to give those keys out)
also retroactive value decreasing is normal... if something is given out for free in mass... it goes 0 so nobody gains from abusing it, if its sold at an ultra discount(bundles) it goes reduced.
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They claim they did have permission, and that the dev went back on the agreement. Who knows? Certainly not you or I.
Looking at website stats, Large scale CV reductions correlate with a massive drop in giveaways. If the goal was to discourage all but the most altruistic from giving them out, then mission accomplished.
As for price increases, they are not value increases. Some shovelware have prices in the hundreds, but then get discounted 99%. For example, publisher Hede. https://store.steampowered.com/search/?publisher=Hede
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Somehow "Can I join?" ended up with quite a bit of discussion. Anyway, I now qualify even without Rolling Toolman, not that it ended up being reduced, but I understood your concern that it might.
Also, I won a second game. So slightly less unlucky than when I first asked.
So, can I join now?
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Hi, is there a room for one more please? Thank you in advance.
Edit: Note to myself
Oppenh4imer/76561198035311026 may need to learn how to deal with crisis managing, or even with people, since he considers a person to be guilty until he can prove otherwise.
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Invited.
Edit: Note to myself
titomalkavian/76561198163306527 abused the group to 10 wins.
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I appreciate the attention. :)
Edit: Hey Oppenh4imer,
It seems you live life in a harsh and bitter way. The last time you yelled at me because I won a giveaway and I hadn't seen it, because I had accessibility difficulties, and I won another giveaway. The thing you didn't see is that the first gifter It took a while to send me the prize, and then a period coincided when I was away and it hadn't even taken me a full day. I didn't break this site rules on that occasion, replies and gifts can occur until 7 days. And yes, I have a life, and things that really matter to me is that people in need can be helped, like the starving, the homeless, the diagnosed with terrible illnesses. Or the animals, the wilderness and the environment. I'm not here to 'steal' anything, nor anyone.
And then the last case occurred. I've entered several giveaways, and I was also away for some time. I was in a rush and then I saw I've won another 2 giveaways, and I managed to reply to it and mark as received as soon as possible, to avoid to receive another of your reprehensions. On that, I didn't managed to see that I was already over the number of wins.
I was about to ask you here to contact the last gifter to cancel the giveaway, or to reroll it if it was possible. And I was about to talk to you that I may remain in the group, not to enter my to do another giveaways to be fair to the rules and to thank people, and I would even manage to host 2 new giveaways - the number of exceeded games - in compensation.
But nah, it's better to use some bitterness, huh?
Regardless, I'm still in another group of yours, and I plan to make this compensation on it while not entering on any of the giveaways running there. Then I'll leave.
Taking life to heart and fire is generally not good for physical and mental health. Take it easy.
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Hey titomalkavian,
after you abused UL7 to 10 wins, please be at least so decent to leave all running group giveaways.
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Hey Oppenh4imer,
I would do that, if you hadn't once again been biased and thought that every human being on the planet was a potentially horrible person. You just forgot that you yourself can - or cannot - be part of this group - the 'horribles'. Or, as happened with your (in)famous counterpart, you just have a certain tendency to nuke individuals, without even thinking about the consequences. Empathy is definitely not for everyone, 'Ottoh4imer".
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There is a weird culture of gatekeeping on this site. I was the only one giving away a specific game, and as soon as I did, it got backdated to zero value by more than a year. This from a $2 game. Meanwhile people that gave away a few trash games a decade ago, and nothing since, maintain their supposed contribution and level. Devs also raise the price of their games, and increase their level, without any backlash.
I also managed to get 9 blacklists just from giving away free games. Presumably people didn't like the games, and so didn't want to see anything I gave away in future? As far as I can tell, no public GAs have been made by anyone that blacklisted me. I can check those by being logged out. Also four whitelists, no idea how? One was from a winner of my GA, but I have not seen a single GA that I was eligible for from a whitelist only, so both black and white listing me seems kind of pointless so far.
That said, all you had to do was not look at the keys you won, and ask for rerolls. Problem solved. Sure, the rest might be true. You could be AFK, and some kind of saint, but viewing and activating any key you got beyond the eighth one was a clear and intentional violation of the rules.
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Mate, I'm sorry you went into these situations.
I can't guarantee it completely, but I believe that this issue of the games I offered having had their prices reduced also happened after I had done the giveaways I hosted. And I heard people commenting on another websites something about being blacklisted by unknown reasons.
That's not the case here, since I know I surpassed the group's cap, but, as I stated, I wasn't accessing here using a laptop when I rushed to 'give fast feedback' and I mislead myself into that since accessibility here beside laptops and PCs is near zero. I'll repeat: since way before I won other giveaways, one of the gifters lasted about a day (and I was OK with that) to send the key to me and they made it when I wasn't available. Then I've won another giveaway in sequence, and I 'dared' to stay away from the internet for about a day, only to be reprehended to the people behind the flamethrower/hammer that I was entering other giveaways and not reclaiming the ones I've won.
And if I really had the intention of breaking rules and/or taking advantage of the situation that occurred, I would not publicly expose the mistake that I made and publicly acknowledged. I simply would run away and something. I just don't try to act through the discipline of guilt, and I don't need to accept that people who don't even know me call me 'indecent' - hey, but that could be a compliment, depending on how hasty, hypocritical and puritanical the author of this criticism may have sounded haha. I think this person also forgets that they also have a glass ceiling. And, of course, I'm not refering to you, Aradiel, but to 'The Man Called 'Ottoh4imer' (insert spooky sound effects here).
So, as I said, as a way of rewarding the community that offered me such unique opportunities, I myself will offer 2 games as soon as possible, since this was the amount that exceeded the group limit. Unfortunately, I won't do it there, where people who have less opportunity, but, as I said, I will do it in the other group. Just to avoid making another mistake, I'm not going to force myself to run so fast. But, as soon as I do these 2 giveaways and the prizes are awarded, I will leave the other group, and I will consider my debt paid off.
And at the end of the day, I'm no saint. I don't even believe in this 'sin' thing. I just prefer to try to make this world a little better place, even if there are people so full of resentment. I recommend that they take care of their body and mind.
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I think the problem was prioritizing feedback, rather than counting your wins. I have had both winners and gifters take multiple days to complete the GA. Others do it immediately. I certainly don't expect people to be online all the time.
In my case, I won 2 before I joined, 4 from the group, then 2 other non group GAs, at which point I left the group with 8 total. I have since won another 4 after leaving, for 12 total. One was also from this group, but was a multi-group GA.
Random pointless fact, but there were 3 people in the Iron Sky GA, you, me and someone else. You won.
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Indeed. It's my responsibility, but it's way different than feeling guilt.
And about your examples, doing a brief self-reflection, if I was really bad intended, I could even mention the possibility that some of the giveaways I won were also shared with another groups. But nah, I was a tad careless.
Regarding Iron Sky, lucky me, huh?! But this isn't the frequent case. And you were really close! And I managed to enter some other giveaways with few people, even against just one people... And I wasn't drawn most of the time eh
P.S.: I added you to my whitelist since you started to write to me here, so if one of my future giveaways interests you, you'll have access to them. And no, you don't need to add me back. :)
I'll even add Closeh4i... Oops! I mean, one of the people on the internet with the greatest empathy and sense of humor, as well as sharp conflict resolution skills. Even so that he can eventually realise that, yes, I can learn from my mistakes and give back a little for what I gained.
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Hey bhns/76561198853628560,
you do not qualify. Cancle you request to join on Steam until you do.
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i requested to join and have completed 7 giveaways, at the time of writing this i am waiting for 3 winners to accept their gifts
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Hey CopycatOTb,
I am waiting for your 7th giveaway getting marked received.
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Hey bhns/76561198853628560,
please be very careful how you try to get into groups. You tried to sneak into at least one group, ignoring their requirements and "how to join steps". If I notice that several times, I have to assume you do not care for group rules.
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Sent an invite. If I meet the requirement, I would like to join.
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Hey TheiStrike/76561198162348577,
all (most?) of your giveaways seem to be for games you got from free key giveaways at other websites. They should be set to 0 value on Steamgifts, but it has not been done yet. Therefore I can not count your giveaways to "7 or more completed giveaways on steamgifts (... of reduced or full value)". Please wait until your account is 2 months old and cancle your request to join until then.
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Hi there! I'd like to join the group and enhance my really bad luck :)
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Hey OfficialAlphaBeta/76561198180707354,
you do not qualify - at all.
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Thanks for accepting me in this group, I suddenly got super lucky and won several giveaways (even won a bundle of 4) in a row. Since I got 8 I will be leaving now. Thanks so much for the giveaways to all the gifters and I hope I'll be able to come back after as one too soon.
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Gifters, please read the October 2023 information: https://www.steamgifts.com/go/comment/XBsHs5q
A group for people that have won 7 or less games on steamgifts.
The idea is to help boost morale and help make things a bit more fair and friendly for everyone.
How to apply:
"game details"Steam account to public (games, playtime, groups, friends) - linkRules of application normal membership:
(1a) Your steamgifts account needs to be at least 2 months old. (It has to say 2 months or more on your profile.)
screenshot on how to check join date
OR
(1b) In case your account is less than 2 months old -
you need to have 7 or more completed giveaways on steamgifts (You gave away 7 or more gifts of reduced or full value)
You need have won no more than 7 gifts on steamgifts (0-7 wins is ok, 8 or more will disqualify you).
You need to have your previous wins on steamgifts activated in YOUR account (steamgifts rule).
You are not a documented scammer (e.g steamrep)
It is your first time around on Steamgifts and you have not deleted your account in the past. There might be exception to this, talk to me (in a comment here). New rule April 2023.
Remember to sync your Steamgifts after being invited.
Once you've won 8 gifts or more -
You need to leave the group and remember to sync your Steamgifts. If you want to stay as a gifter, see below, request your promotion on Steam after your 8th win or ahead of time.
Gifter membership
Gifters create giveaways for group members.
Gifters can only enter 'open to gifters' giveaways and only IF they have a +7 gift difference in group. screenshot check yours here No description => not open to gifters!
Be at least level 3 on steamgifts
Have at least a give/sent ratio of 1:1 in numbers ignoring "no value games sent
4.1 If you have many recent giveaways of asset flip or similar games that are overpriced and just not yet set to zero value, you will probably be denied from being a gifter. If your only giveaways for UL7 are "overpriced trash" every couple of months, please change the quality of your giveaways or leave the group. Updated rule Jan 2024.
Make at least one GA per week in case your in-group gift difference is under +7 until you reach that mark
5.1 Create at least one group (exclusive or share) group giveaway every 6 months. If you create a lot of giveaways in general, but only exactly one UL7 giveaway each 6 months, please post a link in the giveaway thread on Steam, easier to find your last giveaway.
Must keep an in-group VALUE difference bigger than 0
Mention you want to be a gifter when you post below.
After you are in the group, check the threads & announcements (even the old ones) on Steam.
Read: https://www.steamgifts.com/go/comment/XBsHs5q
Group giveaway guide - when you create a giveaway and someone wins DON'T deliver gift until:
(unless it was open to gifters / multi group giveaway and the winner was from another group/whitelist)
If you request a new winner, because the winner is no longer in the group, ask for a screenshot first, so you have proof when he/she left the group.
When its time for you to leave the group:
FAQs
How do I sync my profile?
Like this
How do I check my steamgifts join date?
Like this
Can I enter to win a gift for my friend / family / brother / cousin / dog / pet gerbil?
Gifts have to be activated in your account. This is a steamgifts rule.
If your friends want to join, have them apply here.
You don't have to enter all group giveaways - Remember you only have up to 8 gifts so choose wisely!
Its actually much preferred if you only enter giveaways for games you actually want.
Can non gifters create giveaways for the group?
Regular members can also create group giveaways for each other. Actually this is encouraged.
Can I join the group as both gifter as normal member?
You can join the group as both, or become a gifter once you have won the gift quota.
I have more than 8 wins but not all wins are from the group, do I still have to leave?
Yes, the win count refers to your steamgifts account, it is not group specific.
I have to leave the group but still have ongoing group giveaways I am part of, can I still win those?
No, if you have to leave please exit all ongoing group giveaways you are a part of.
We get very angry when we have to perform dozens of re-rolls on people that left / were kicked from group days ago and still "win" group giveaways.
I am a gifter but have less than 8 wins on steamgifts, can I enter group giveaways for normal members?
yes, once you reach 8 or more wins you become a full 'gifter'. Until then you can enter all 'normal' group giveaways.
For gifters: Only enter group GAs, if the GA is "open to gifters" and your gift difference is >= +7. Please refrain from using UL7 GAs to store points.
Group giveaways list
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