What do you think of the SG contributor system?

I completely agree there are problems at the core of the contributor system. That's evident by the number of people that have been reported and suspended for feedback fraud. However, the same system has urged people to give away more, perhaps at a lower cost of purchase.

Contributor values are also a nice simple way to filter a giveaway and make it available to people that have generally been more involved and given back to the community. I don't doubt that fraudulent feedback still allows some undeserving people to enter high CV giveaways, but most of the entrants are going to be legitimate high contributors.

I do feel that people who donate to the community more than I do should have access to more exclusive giveaways, and CV is a simple way to achieve that goal. The system never claimed to solve everything, and it should not be treated under that light.

I voted keep it, but I'd support a few tweaks here and there, to alleviate some of the problems.

The current system just does not work out.

Maybe instead of getting the contributor value, we should have some sort of contributor system where the community has a direct influence on the CV - this could encourage more public giveaways, but you are still able to make hight-CV, private and group giveaways, that just will not give as much CV, because not as many people can "upvote" them.

Basically you would get a base CV, depending on the game value, plus an additional CV, based on the upvotes you get from people that enter your giveaway.

A possible calculation: CV = (game.value / 10) + (game.value / 1000 * upvote.count)

For example is someone is giving aways a $20 game and gets 1000 upvotes for it, he gets $22.0 CV

Is someone is giving away a $20 game in a small group and therefore only gets 20 upvotes, he gets $2.40 CV

Now before you stat crying "Hey, but it's a $20 game, why only give $2.40?" - that's because in this system, the CV does not show how much money you invested in the game, but how valuable your giveaway is to the whole community.

Only people who enter should be eligible to upvote and the vote has to be removed if they leave the giveaway.

Now, this is only one possible idea, I did not invest much time or thinking in the calculation part, as that could always been tweaked accordingly, please don't hate on my for actually making constructive suggestions =)

What do you think about a system like this?

Remove it

Contribution value is a good idea, but it became overly complicated with the time. People cannot understand why some games marked with asterisks, why their values cannot increase or which sales count as "bundles", write about this in forums and generate much rage in replies. Some people dedicate themselves to "farming" contribution value, others in return begin judging people by their contribution too much.
How about returning to basic contribution system - each game counts af flat constant value for everyone; sales, bundles, keys or regional prices do not matter. Keeping it simple. Otherwise we need to get rid of existing system completely and come up with something entirely new and different.

Even tho I am annoyed most of the time because I don't have enough contribuitor value to enter some particular giveaways, I still think it's the right way to be followed. There would be way too many leeches around and to be honest, I think many would lose interest to do giveaways, just because they get nothing in exchange. As it is now, they get CV and they have higher changes to win something for themselfs, not just to give away stuff.

The problem are the bundle games. Maybe I'll edit this later with an explanation, cause right now I gotta run.

Yeah so.. I don't know. I already said bundle games cause problems. I honestly don't know how the system should change, but I think it should be something like, more CV, not full value of the game, maybe 25%, but for EACH one and for a limited ammout of copies to stop farming.

If you think my raw idea is bad, its ok, because I'm not sure what I'm saying either. :D

Either way, I'm happy how things are going right now.

the contributor only is overused... so many good giveaways people can't enter.
Imo it doesn't rward contributors because of the little higher chance to win and prevents more people from gifting those who win something -> gift something). It only rewards those who grind their points, really. Any else will just by a game instead of waisting time here.
Remove or requalify it at least!

KEEEEEEP IT.

I dont care. (btw steamgifts should be renamed to bundlegifts, because its 95% bundle games, 5% normal games :( )

What's the "Contributor giveway" ? Is it the fact that some games are restricted for peoples who gave the equivalent of a certain amount of money. This just doesn't work. I mean, give 1$, buy 100 bundle at 0.01$ and you can get anything... this system is weak.

You must delete upper limit of bundle games. at least add 1$ contribute for bundle games. And for not to abusing this bundle contribution, for one man only can add 1$ for 1 bundle game.(I'm poor at english, gorgive my poor grammar.)

Here's the thing. Community votes for contributor value, okay. However, in my opinion it needs to be modificated. CG should make a public contributor value for public giveaways, and a group contributor value for group giveaways.

Why, you may ask. There are multiple giveaway groups, with their own rules like 1 win = 1 giveaway. They're more like a trading groups, where members giveaway many games and get another for them, in a close, little communities. It's very unfair that they receive the same contributor value as users who giveaway games in public.

Imagine somebody who have "traded" many games in those groups, getting some amount of another games for them, and he is able to enter a public giveaway with i.e. ~1000$ value. He didn't do anything for the public SG community, but for his groups only. So he shouldn't be able to enter public giveaway, unless he hadn't contributed to the public. That's my idea.

keep it, i have not contributed so much but it's a good system for me, it only need some improvement. :D

Idea:

Use "Our Wishlist" on CV (changing the name to Contributor Points or something).

Like -->

CP = CV * (W/C + 1)

Or

CP = CV * X

CV = as always

W = number of people who has it on whishlist

C = any constant to avoid big numbers

X = 11 if top 10 | 10 if 11-20 | 9 if 21-30 | ... | 1 if isn´t on our wishlist (or any scale)

Shouldn't you add a third option, modify it? I really dislike the current system, but I definitely see why it's in place.

The biggest problem with contribution based on the US dollars: not everyone SG members earns 1500-3000 US dollars per month, and not everyone paying for Steam games same prices.

I wish there was a 3rd option that said discontinue it, but for reasons. I love the idea of rewarding people who contribute to the community, and think we should continue to explore ways to do that, I think the current system doesn't do that very well though. It would be a full time job or more to properly monitor and edit values for games that become dirt cheap or free, or crack down on people gaming the system etc.

I think overall the people who have the money and heart to throw down some of their own cash to give games to others tend to do fairly well for themselves when it comes to game purchases as well though, and I think the current system does a poor job of rewarding and thanking them, while rewarding people who invest time in playing the system.

I don't know what a different system would look like, but I feel like there has to be a better solution than what we have now. (Which is a system that already requires massive amounts of moderator and admin input, editing, policing, etc.)

Contribution system is a good concept, but it doesn't work very well now, since people tend to exploit such things and the exploitation rating is growing. I voted for removing it, but hoping for something improved to be done.

Shouldn't there be a vote option saying "remove the bundle restriction only"? That causes all the problem... nearly nobody buys a game for the full price, weather it is via a key page or steam...

If you were to remove the cg no one would giveaway anything but bundle games.

Contributor system is an awesome system, but needs more attention from STAFF.

• is necessary for games included in bundles (like Indiegala-Indiegala Store, HIB, etc..) for preventing spam.
  Retroactivity is not always a good thing, it's a fast as bad solution.

So, keep and IMPROVE the current system. Set the * to the games spammed with the giveaways more fast than now and we'll have a good system.

I don't understand what the big problem with bundle games. In my last two giveaways signed up over 200 people, it means that at least 200 people wanted that game.

All the games that I have won come from bundles and I am happy because I wanted those games.

I prefer to be many giveaways of less value and everyone wins, that very few giveaways where only win contributors.

Sorry for my english.

They are definitely broken, but they need to be fixed, not removed. The system is getting abused by bundles, it should be fixed. Steam doesn't really help by keeping huge prices well beyond their time (crazy machines $20? oh come on...!)

I think that there is a better solution. Alchohol. Lots of it.

The problem with contributor system is that it's open to abuse by some members. They make a group for a couple of people and make giveaways for themselves so they can enter contributor giveaways. Groups with a low member count should not be valid for contributor value on site.

Uhm don't know if this idea has mentioned before in this thread, but I don't want to read through all 700 comments.

Keep the CV and make it so there is no decreased value for bundled games. Instead, a user can only get CV for a game once. If he/she gives away the game more than one time, he/she doesn't get any CV.
This prevents "leeching" from 95% discounts or 1€/$-special offers.