I hope valve remove all this anime weebo trash soon
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... srsly Volvo ?
So the garbage murder thousand jews , or black people ... flat out racist nonsense is okay to be sold .
But pixel tities , Naaah .
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But Hunie Pop is a good game , and some of the Sekai project VNs are pretty good .
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No, it's not, It's just a trashy and uninspired match-3 game. I won't defend this kind of games just because of BOOBZ
As for VN, I have to play one that's worth the time spent installing. They usually are just verbose amateur fiction made to pander to the fantasies of the most insecure players. And when I say "play", I don't mean it like "play a game" cause very few of them qualify as a game.
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Play tsukihime, or Fate/stay night or the balad of Aya, or stein gate, or MUV-LUV, or Umineko, or the thousands of amazing VN
And that is not even the point. If you don't defend the rights of games that you don't like, nobody will defend the games that you like when they come after them. And they will. Like if an angry user of Twitter with many followers demand steam to stop selling Kingdom Come: Deliverance
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Yep. The point should always be to accept the games for what they are and the people who play them. I don't like certain types of games but I'll never tell someone what they should or shouldn't be playing.
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Funny how I got blacklisted by a dozen of angry H-weebs (the worst kind of weeb, the Hentai weeb, for whom Japanese cultural significance only relies on short schoolgirl dress).
What should I say? That I'm being censored?! I guess free speech is not so important after all :D No, I will just continue engaging with the people I like and acknowledge that some don't want to engage with me.
As for what's the main topic, if there's a breach of contract, I hope that the parties that got hurt will get indemnities, but considering they'll have to fight in American courts, where justice belongs to the stronger and the wealthier, I fear they won't win. That's the main issue here: when it comes to commercial relationships, there's no justice and the smaller ones will always get screwed by the bigger ones.
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Well comments like yours , which are flat out hating on the entire genre are probably whats in the mind of people who initiated that whole purge.
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Most of those are just the same weeb-pandering garbage, tho.
MuV-Luv? For real? Literal porn.
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I love time travel stories. They are my favorite type of science fiction. But even in a world with Back to the Future and Star Trek IV, I'd still say the most interesting, complex, and utterly captivating time travel narrative I have ever encountered is the visual novel Steins;Gate. https://kotaku.com/steins-gate-the-kotaku-review-1559811854
If you love strong storytelling, solid and realistic sci-fi, diverse and engaging characters, quite a bit of charming fanservice, and to be deeply engaged on the emotional level, you owe it to yourself to try the Muv-Luv trilogy out https://www.dualshockers.com/muv-luvv-alternative-review/
.When you think of doujin writing, you do not usually equate it with amazing... yet on his first try, Nasu wrote a story that some may consider to be the best story he’s written, and in my eyes, it’s one of the better ones out there. https://rockmandash12.kinja.com/rockmandash-reviews-tsukihime-visual-novel-1614282097
To be honest, I thought it would take a while longer for this day to come. An Excellent score is not one that I give out lightly – in fact, I try not to give them out at all. Despite my attempts to find something wrong with Fate/Stay Night the only negative things I can say about it are incredibly minor when compared to all the things it does right – and it does a whole lot of things right. The degree to which each of its components complement each other is unmatched in my experience, and anyone referring to Fate/Stay Night as anything less than a classic is doing it an extreme disservice. For all that is good in the world, you must play this game.
https://thegeekclinic.wordpress.com/2013/09/01/visual-novel-review-fatestay-night/
You haven't answered my comment about Kingdom Come :Deliverance, so I will tell you what I will do. When they try to remove it from the steam store(and somebody will, sooner or later it, demand it) , because is the "same racist fascist al-right pandering garbage tho" (that is what they will say) I will fight it, because if I don't try to protect games I don't like, nobody will protect the ones I like.
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I didn't say anything about Kingdom Come: Deliverance because I know next to nothing about that game; I've been going through a very weird period in the past few months - depression, crippling depression, starting the fight against depression, changing habits, starting to work out - and with all of that combined with my general focus on a few select games, I've missed out on a lot of things.
All I know about KC:D is that it is an open-world, realistic game with a medieval setting. I've noticed it touted as controversial but I have no idea why, as I have never seen any gameplay footage or done research about it.
Not sure if I agree with your "I will fight it, because if I don't try to protect games I don't like, nobody will protect the ones I like." but I do respect the noble approach.
Steins;Gate I've heard referenced as good, cannot comment on it.
Muv-Luv is garbage; even if it has good writing, it is filled with actual fetish-fueled porn & dating-sim pandering to horny weebs and otakus - which in my eyes ruins it and takes away any legitimacy it has as a piece of (visual) literature. Either be porn or don't, there is no in-between. It's shameful and a shame at the same time.
The Fate series also has VERY questionable designs, moments and content overall; at this point the series is just chock-full of sexual pandering. It's only saving grace is that, from what I recall, the author did NOT want it to be that way and only included porn in the original Fate because "VNs had to have it" aka was forced by publishers... Which is VERY, very sad if you ask me - says loads about the target demographic, doesn't it? Explains modern anime too...
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When talking about VNs, I refered to the aforementionned Sekai VNs. I thought it was quite clear whenI said they were for insecure players and their fantasies.
And about what you think is the point :
Let's not turn this into what it isn't. None is banning those games. It's just a dispute between a big company and a group of smaller companies. The bigger company has decided to stop distributing the products of the sammelr companies. Nothing more nothing less. It's not a large scheme by whatever dictatorial regime to censor erotic or pornographic games. To take your exampls further, if steam stop selling games like Kingdom Come, I'll just buy it eslsewhere, like gog or directly from the devs.
That's the only lesson here, don't rely too much on steam. Don't give steam a monopolistic position.
And choose your battles. This one isn't worth it.
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Without steam, it's not economically viable to release a PC versión of most games. If steam decided to remove kingdom come, you probably wouldn't have a PC versión of the game.
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/dec/03/australian-store-bans-grand-theft-auto-5-violence-against-women
And don't think it can't happen.
And what do you mean nobody is banning the games? Steam has just said that either they accept even more censorship, or the games will be removed from the store. It's the whole point of the thread. It may even cause the closing down of the developers, and cause other companies that were thinking about creating VN 's, or localize them to forget about it. It's the whole VN genre that is going to take a big hit, even if Valve changed their mind tomorrow.
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I don't care for visual novels and dating sims myself anyway.
I'm fine with it.
I guess if you unironically enjoy such games, having them removed might suck.
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I don't care about the content either, I care about the principle behind it and how it can later be expanded and applied. Just because I don't care about the games doesn't mean others don't and just because I might care about something else doesn't mean other do.
I would rather they remain open about the content as it serves no real purpose to limit like that and can be expanded later to something I do enjoy.
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Tomorrow they may come to some genre you like. You won max payne 3 here. What if somebody said max payne is sexist and demanded to remove it? Would you be happy?
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If they did remove some of my favourite game from Steam, I'd probably still play it without a Steam. What's the problem? You're making a problem because it will take away
1) Trading cards
2) Ability to add +1
3) Ability to show others that you're a weeb on Steam
4) Can't play it through the Steam to gain more "time spent" on it.
Other than that it takes away nothing. Demand developers release a website and buy it off there or ask for a way to download it from there.
I don't see any problems in this. I doubt you have that many games you really want to play. If you do, you don't really care about this weeb crap, you just want to create a discussion and that's cool.
PS. Quick question, did you actually purchase the game or did you receive it as any other good fellow here, from bundle? Bundles already damage the developers.
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That's like saying that if Amazon stopped selling, like books about american native history, it doesn't matter, just demand writers release a website and buy it off there or ask for a way to download it from there. It's not THAT easy. Writers would just start writing another genre.
If steam decided to stop having max payne on the store, it's not that the developers would release it, say, max payne 4 anywhere else. Chances are we wouldn't have a PC versión of the game, since steam is where most of the pc sales are. And small companies, like the developers of Huniepop would have even more trouble.
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Umm, that's a crappy example. If Amazon stopped selling books that I read, oh wait... It doesn't even sell them. I buy them straight from the publisher of the writers. Yeah. So I really wouldn't be sad about Amazon stopping to sell book genre that I like. And I don't know any other genres that would be censored by government except some WW2 or mass murder by government related stuff in certain countries. And you can still order those books online and this way fund "propaganda makers".
How do you think games like Sims and Battlefield and others were sold before Origin, Steam, uPlay, GOG etc.? Sure, no one uses CDs anymore, but there are always ways of stuff reaching the consumer and taking their money from their wallets. You can even fund the game completely by donations from kickstarter.
I ask you, if Huniepop made a webpage and asked 10 euros/dollars for a copy of a game (digital copy from their website, not on Steam) would you pay it? Or would you be like "naah, too much for such a simple game"?
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If Huniepop made a web page and asked 10€, I wouldn't buy it. I don't usually trust random web pages. Usually I only buy from very trusted sources that I'm already used, like statistically most people. That's the reason every indie developer don't have a web page and trust only a few places, like steam or GOG, and most small writers can only sell through Amazon.
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The only reason why most indie developers don't have websites cause their game sucks/no interest or capability of marketing/they don't care about anything else but Steam.
Having that said, great indie games developers have their own websites, and they link it straight to Steam. So instead of that, they could just sell it there straight.
So you wouldn't invest the money into the game, because you don't like it. Obviously you have other reasons then beyond that gameplay. Or you probably realized that hentai can be googled without having to pay for the game.
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And you say that, after numerous people here on SG freely say they only buy from steam/places with steam keys. GOG, probably a better place han steam, really lags behind for that. And many refuse to buy games anywhere else. They don't even like battlenet, that has been around forever.
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Actually if I originally started buying stuff from GoG rather than Steam, I'd stick with it just because it's cheaper. Since I have already spent over 4000 euros on Steam I'm sticking with it, because I don't like changing libraries. But if I like a game like Sims 4, I sure as hell invest in other platform just because I know I will play that game even if it's out of the Steam.
Steam for me, is more for show-off to friends "Look at how many games I have on Steam", I admit that.
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No I don't. Define most people, just because your opinion of the matter is one, it is not yet a common ideology.
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No offense, but are you serious? Have you seen the outrage when Humble decided for a single release on Battle.net? They had to publicy apologise. People on SG on the same thread were saying that if they were offered Witcher 3 on GOG, they would still be angry.
Have you seen the "no steam, no sale" crowd? Have you seen the stranglehold they have over the whole PC market, even when there are alternatives? That's the point of this thread.
Ok. You are probably diferent. What is the last search engine that you have used? Bing, right? And the last social network? Google+, right? The last streaming program? Tidal? How many games you have on origin, GOG, Microsoft store, compared to your 5000 games on steam?
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No use to argue with you, since you are obviously uneducated underaged kid with strong opinions until life hits you when you turn 18 and have to start working and commit to the society by following other people's ideologies.
Good luck in life bro, next time use your mad Googling skills to find out why people were mad about Humble Bundle Monthly bundle and not mad at all about for example Sony Playstation bundle. Oh wait, maybe because they said it was Steam keys only, and then they didn't follow their own guidelines? Maybe it's that. Or maybe because "People on SG on the same thread were saying that if they were offered Witcher 3 on GOG, they would still be angry." comes from STEAMgifts, not GOGgifts or ORIGINgifts?
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I could say that people on reddit were also angry, or that you haven't answered most of my points, like the stranglehold over the pc market, or the monopoly of Spotify, Google, facebook
But since you only know how to use insults, I'll just say goodbye and ask you to please grow up. You are probably bitter that Valve didn't listen to those that have asked to remove the nudity on the witcher
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Quick answer. I don't have Huniepop. I'm not personally interested in the game. It doesn't mean I don't see the problem with censorship. If they remove it or censor it, tomorrow they will censor something else. Like the witcher 3.
And I don't like others treating me like a Child, deciding what I can or can't spend my own money
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Why everyone bringing Witcher 3 into this. Witcher 3 is not going to be removed from the store for any nudity stuff, same goes for GTA V. Developers can be smart and do what they are asked for or they can go full Jeff and start throwing tantrum that they're mistreated when they have been trying to break the rules but in secret.
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So, they can be smart and accept censorship, or be banned and lose, not matter what they do, most of their ability to reach audiences.
Ooooook.
I hope they never go after something you like
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This is very bad sheep thinking. Censorship is never a good thing. We can't approve it. We can't tolerate that. Not only Witcher 3 will follow, but every other not "family friendly" game.
I don't want Valve to become another Nintendo.
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First they came for the anime, and I did not speak out—
Because I don't play anime games.
Then they came for the asset flippers, and I did not speak out—
Because I don't play shovelware games.
Then they came for the clickers, and I did not speak out—
Because I don't play incremental games.
Then they came for the witcher 3, fallout 4, and skyrim, because they also have nudity in them—and the people I ignored whose games were removed didn't want to help me stop valve from removing games I do play.
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Others living in 2018 this man living already in 2050 where Witcher 3, Fallout 4, GTA V, Skyrim etc. AAA-games have been deleted from Steam because they are old and Valve peeps don't care about profits.
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They had to remove witcher 3, you know. It had nudity. Censorship got accepted, and very few people fought back. It's Ok, you can have assassins creed 47, and call of duty 125 without any nudity. There hasn't been any games with nudity at all for 30 years
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America, the country that delivers the most porn into the world. Oh, nudity will stay, there's just no need to bring it into games that are super simple and repetitive like tetris or candy crush and have no ability to survive unless horny little boys interested in hentai will buy it.
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Today games you don't like. Tomorrow games you like
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#KONY2012 all over again? Naah thanks. My games are safe.Comment has been collapsed.
First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
You say you games are safe, and you have recently played outlast 2, where there are scenes with burned babies. It only takes one angry Twitter user with many followers. And it only takes one developer that cares about not bending to censorship for the game to be removed
Let me tell you. About half the games you own, there is an idiot somewhere on Internet that wants to censor something about it, or remove from the steam store
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Yeah, I don't mind about it now cause I already have them in my library. There is going to be zero change from the library even if the game is deleted from the Store page.
And I have actually played less than what you see on my account, since I use Idle Master just to get trading cards from the games. I just like collecting games. I like strategy games and mostly play games that are for 7+, so super safe.
First they came for A, but I was not A.
Then they came for B, but I was not B.
Then C, but again I'm not C.
Then D, and so on up until it was my turn.
But then it was year 2400 and I already died in 2100. Cool story.
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It just takes a single update to remove what they don't want you to see
And the group that organized this, are already going after the witcher and mass effect
Just in case, start playing the witcher 3 and outlast 2
Or, here https://www.reddit.com/r/Steam/comments/8kjyiw/reminder_on_valves_new_censorship_rules_one/
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Naah thanks. My games are safe.
You've played five 'Sakura' titles and wishlisted a sixth.
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I've idled them for cards, thanks for your research but to disappoint you I have to say I am using Idle Master. :)
I wishlist games that have high value on Steamgifts just to easier find them on Wishlist- related giveaways. I don't really want to play most of the games on my wishlist.
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Wow, okay, I have to admit, I am disappointed. It's not that I didn't catch you in having played an embarrassing kind of game. I'm disappointed that you actually wishlist games to get into wishlist-only giveaways for games you'll never play, hoping to scrape together a few cents from cards.
I mean, you get the point of people filtering giveaway entries to only those who wishlisted a game, right? They're hoping that it's going to go to someone who actually wants the game, so much so they're actually trying to block you from doing exactly what you're doing.
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How many of one million users on this website can admit that they actually want these games for +1 in the library? I definitely can, cause I don't care if people add me to their blacklist or not, not gonna change my perception because of that.
And I'm not into "few cents from cards". I just started selling all my cards and useless emoji and background junk, and already have 463 euros thanks to that. I'm after the game that I will never buy for full/discount price unless it will be bundled, that's what I'm after. I've found real gems within indie games, but for me I can see from screenshots if the game is worth playing or not. And if it already has been bundled and I don't have it, then I'll trade something for it. As easy as that, Wishlist also helps when trading.
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Who are "they"?
We're not in China (or at least most of us aren't). The Morality Police isn't coming to your house to destroy all traces of the games you bought.
There's already half a dozen of good alternatives for steam when it comes to pornographic games. Just use one of those other platforms. Noone is blocking access to them.
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The difference between those platforms you are talking about and steam is that those platforms have nudity while steam doesn't, meaning some people who would play the censored version won't be able to..
There are sites for pornography but you should see a difference between those sites and these games.
These games don't have/many nude scenes (have less then Witcher 3 and many other AAA games) so I have no idea why you call them pornographic..
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Who cares about the distinction between what's pornographic and what's erotic. Pornography begins where your own interest stops. It's as subjective as it gets.
Anyway, you're deliberately missing my point. It's not censorship, it's just bad behaviour by a bigger company towards smaller companies. They still have other solutions. Mangagamer does not only sell porn/ecchi/erotic games. The days when steam had a monopole are over.
Also noone is complaining about gog not selling those games? Why? Because they can do what the fuck they want. It's a free world. If a company decides selling some kind of games is not worth it, then they should stop selling them. And if there's a marketshare for those games that is sufficiently profitable and reliable, some one will find a way to sell them. If it doesn't bring enough profit, maybe it wasn't such a great piece of art after all.
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Mangagamer share of the pc market is tiny. Steam has a monopoly of all but the name.
It's not about being a great piece of art or not. If the gateway for pc games decides to close it down on one genre, they almost kill the whole genre on PC. You have won here a few hidden object games. If steam decided that they won't have any more hidden object games because reasons, even if there is a real market on PC, developers would just forget about the whole genre.
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http://leadinganswers.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/12/13/team_responsibility_2.jpg
Step 1: Valve censors games you don't like
Step 2: Valve now has a precident that they can censor games
Step 3: Valve censors games you do like
or
Step 1: Valve censors games you don't like
Step 2: All steam users have a big problem with it
Step 3: Valve stops
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Then they came for the asset flippers, and I did not speak out—
Because I was celebrating them being removed :D
I agree with the other two point of yours (to some degree - anime games can be good and require time and effort to create, while assetflips and clickers are ways to create a game / a simple mechanic, respectively. They could (khm, can. Did?) easily flood Steam, while by definition they don't (or not necessarily) carry any extra compared to the others of the same category. Though there are some very good, long-term, good themed clickers, and as all clickers are clickers, one can easily hide them all :)
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You're missing the point. If you don't stop valve from censoring games you don't like, why should anyone care about you when valve starts censoring games you DO like? We'll just say you deserve it for not helping to stop the censoring before it started.
http://leadinganswers.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/12/13/team_responsibility_2.jpg
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You're missing the point by making a list where one of the supposedly protected categories shouldn't even exist on the platform, I'm just pointing out that they have no right to be amongst other, proper categories. First as it's not a category, secondly not a genre, thirdly it's unethical practice that shouldn't be censored, but outright banned.
Swap it for a proper genre and your list is okay :P
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I kinda hope this actually happens, just so the various affected devs band together and we get a proper competitor to Steam that doesn't censor sexual content.
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Seeing what type of games itch.io has I'd say, I better throw my computer in the garbage than start playing itch.io games.
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seriously? =\ i have huniepop installed and i still have to play it.. many players told me it was a nice game so i put it in my library folder where i keep the games (mainly rpgs) which require some time skill and reading and such.. that's really sad =\
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Your library won't be affected anyway, even Digital Homicide games are available for people who had them in their libraries. Question is if they can be sold further on, and if they can, what changes are necessary.
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And I'm pretty sure that even the already generated keys for the deleted games are still working, if there are any left.
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Wait, was't HuniePop already censored enough to be allowed onto Steam, way back when Valve still occasionally had humans look at what got put onto the storefront?
Might as well remove Deus Ex Mankind Divided too, because that has an uncensored pair of boobs in it somewhere.
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It has uncensored assets downloaded from steam, which isn't OK according to Valve.
"Although I cannot refer to any specific decision or any particular title, I can say for certain that - much like the GTA “hot coffee” scandal - if the hardcore content is actually delivered over Steam as part of the game data and just “unlocked” by the patch file, that would be a pretty big violation of the Steam distribution agreement."
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You go to the Storepage
scroll a bit -> click -> Visit the website
and the first thing you see is a guide to the adult patches directly above the steam button
it's probably the same for valve ;)
The Deep space waifu - guys also have a message form valve their game also has an uncutpatch
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Give a hint of it in the Discussions and it will be on Steam. Linking it elsewhere doesn't mean it's not on Steam. Why you have to make them anyway? Afraid of losing your customers cause game sucks without it? Well, then I'd say off ya go.
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Nowadays you change everything as you would like it now - Nothing is set in stone anymore
It probably certainly stands somewhere that Valve can change anything when and wherever they want^^
Otherwise, they would not give the developers/publishers 2 weeks to change it
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I think when Greenlight was a thing, they had a ToS saying they can remove the game from their Store at any moment if they feel like it, and you can't do anything about it. Not sure if Direct changed terms somehow.
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Accurate representation of people that like this change because valve only targetted some weeb games for now
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While I personally couldn't care less about anime trash like HuniePop, it definitely shows the lack of a working age verification on Steam. If there was a real age verification (instead of that ridiculous message to enter some fictive birth date for certain games considered to be "adult"/"mature"), it would make things so much easier. Only users whose account passed the verification would be able to see and buy certain games on the Steam Store and only those accounts could activate keys for said games. They wouldn't have to remove anything. It would also help if they wanted go further providing into movies and stuff. And it would help with editions for adults in countries like Germany.
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It is just not possible to create a real one... or do you want to distribute your personal data on the Internet?
maybe with passport photo scan etc. it couldnt be worse.
btw hunie isnt trash cute game compared to the others and well done
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Common', of course it's possible, it just takes some effort. Maybe it could be done via credit card, maybe it could be done via postal services (for example, I remember, decades ago, back in the days when games were still shipped in physical boxes, the postman did the age verification when delivering the box - they could do the same by sending you a personal letter with a code which you could then enter in your Steam account), maybe there's even 3rd party age verification services like there's payment processors such as Paypal. It probably would cost some extra, but if it's a one time thing to remove ridiculous censoring, low violence restrictions, I'd be willing to pay, as long as it's reasonable.
p.s. happy cake day.
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Surely you can install some slightly better solution but this is bypassed as well as everything else
which might work better but would have worse consequences in special situations
I also remember online-stores or game retailer a long time ago in game magazines like Okaysoft where you had to fax your pass
and then you could buy everything there even indexed games or when Ebay was new They have sent you a code by mail(post)
but it's basically nothing more than just entering a fake date of birth as we have today. It does not stop you from stealing mum or daddy stuff like we did before to get access. Of course it would ensure a certain selection. But I would not feel more comfortable today to give such detailed documents to a company if I do not have to before I do that, I prefer to get the warez version. Usually the developers are to blame because they does not care (Techland with Dying Light or Dead Island is a great example)
And it would not help us Germans or others either we would still not get a uncut version of WW2 games for example because this is a law thing and has nothing to do with age :/
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I think that just separating adult content to adult.steampowered.com and a separate client would go some way towards limiting exposure. (Pun not intended.)
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Disappointment.
(That's all I can say. Especially to all those people who claim to be ok with this. I certainly hope this is some kind of misunderstanding or error on Valve's part.)
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One thing I wanted to ask. I heard Valve will let all owners keep the games in their library should they get removed from Steam, but what if they get changed and thus stay in the Steam store? Will all Steam users, regardless of age, be required to let their copies of said game update to be censored?
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Required, no -- you can turn updates off for individual games in your library (assuming you've already downloaded it). If you're worried about that happening for some games you own, you should do this. Otherwise, yes, the game will likely update to the latest version.
[edit] At least, this used to be the case... checking Update settings on a game... not sure if the option to not update still exists now... odd. Apparently I haven't checked that option out since around 2015... [/edit]
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Sure but it just seems stupid to me, because what if you're an adult, and it has to be censored anyway? It's great for Valve to want to restrict games from underage viewers to see such bad stuff, and I fully agree that kids should be prevented from seeing games with bad content, and I know it's very tough to have real age verification online digitally that a kid couldn't just lie about to circumvent, but what about the obvious adults who should be exempt from this?
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I think they could just remove Huniepop from the store (leaving it unchanged) and releasing idk, Huniepop Lite with removed features if they really have to. This way they can sell the accepted version, but the old one stays. Or they just can have a backwards-patch available online. Seems like they care enough about their game / players that they would do something like these options.
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There has never been a "don't update my games ever" option in Steam. There has only ever been a "don't automatically update my games" option, which still exists exactly the same as it did eight years ago when I first made my Steam account and refuses to let you launch a game that has an "update required" until you update it.
Unless you exit steam entirely and launch it in Offline mode, so it doesn't know the game has an update pending.
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Yes, there was, and it was removed in 2015.
What you're talking about is a global setting.
I'm talking about a per-game setting that used to be in the Right-click > Properties > Update tab for each game. There's still a setting there, but the option to Disable Updates is no longer on the list.
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https://i.imgur.com/tpa2HBG.png
This is an email I got in January 2012 from Steam support, answering my question about why games were still updating when I told them not to.
It explicitly says that option does not exist. Unless they added that option sometime between 2012 and 2015 and I missed it, I don't think it has ever existed.
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Seems we're each half-right.
The option existed, but didn't quite do what I thought it did...
https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/1/35221031581091870/
https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/1/35219681618964875/
...and for some games will update anyway, regardless of your setting, and others used to give an option to launch without installing the update...
https://www.reddit.com/r/Steam/comments/5avzmf/why_there_is_no_dont_update_this_game/d9lawd8/
Also, seems to be an interesting (temporary) workaround here, a little more than just the usual Offline mode...
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=885555151
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My usage for steam will be reduced to half.. Pornhub I'm coming back..
But jokes aside it would be a huge hit to Valve's ribs since the cards for all of these games gonna get unmarketable.. Sexual Anime games always has a high priced cards, Which are 100% profit to Valve since we buy them for no fucken good reason but to satisfy our weeabooly desires..
I hope a good talk with Valve solves this problem.. I had to re-upload my artwork due to containing pornographic images.. lol
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Naah, it's like 0,0000001% of the PUBG and CSGO boxes alone. When you add gun skins, keys etc. they will top these teeny tiny trading cards profits 1000-0.
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The items of CSGO, PUBG, ..etc are profitable but it still has it's value.. you just don't go and be like I spent a 500$ of steam levels :V for no real outcome.. Buying a key for 2.5$ and then open a Case and win an Item from 0.5$ to 1.3K$ worth items which means that Valve mostly earns around 2$ from each Case and some times They lose a ton of cash..
Unless it got sold on the Community marked but ROFL there ain't a person alive gonna accept to lose around 200$ taxes
Buying trading cards will give Valve a better profit even after counting the Dev's cut..
I buy a game and get 3 cards but still need to get another 2 which will cost around 1$ if they has anime chicks on them..
And if you want to get the full badge oh boy you gonna starve for a week to be able to buy 'em all..
Also the Foil badges which cost around 8~12$ for Anime Themed games..
Valve just take all those taxes and give nothing in return.. Because even the Backgrounds and Emojis are also marketable..
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Valve doesn't lose money at any point of the trade. You are mistaking pixels for real world stuff. They offer you pixels for your real world money, and that business is blooming. And there are many items on the market that are worth over 100USD or EUR each, yet they still are being bought. Trading cards are something that brings a little profit for unknown indie developers and some use it as their main income from the game by giving away the keys. So losing ability to gain anymore trading cards from these games won't affect Steam market value anyhow.
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good. hopefully this kind of restrictions will get even more tight.
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im surprised that Amorous from Snaggletooth Studios is not on the list. it have furry porn in it. i even caught my little brother faping to it a bunch of time.
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ITT: People that don't get that porn is not supposed to be on Steam & making false-equivalencies.
Movies and TV shows with action, gore and sex are on Netflix.
Porn is not on Netflix.
Games with action, gore and sex are on Steam.
Porn is on Steam.
Get it now?
That is the reality and I suppose Valve has decided to change it... I mean come on people, it's not only that Steam now has your "VN literal masterpieces" that totally benefit from the gratuitous porn scenes to be "true works of art", Steam now has literal porn games where the screenshots don't even hide the type of content...
I say this: If Steam wants to allow porn games, then they should FULLY allow porn games - no censorship at all, everything fully bare, everything obvious; a true 18+ section.
But as it is now, the half-assed "no porn allowed, except for all of the porn we allow because it is 'censored'" approach is annoying.
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I have not played that one so I cannot comment on whether that writer's assessment is accurate or not; hence, I cannot agree or disagree with you.
If that game really IS like that and IS in threat of being removed, that IS bullshit.
I'd say that I am doubtful, as I've seen a few other VNs talked-up like that only to find out that they are, in fact, just porn; a type of porn focused on fetishization, objectifying, pandering and general wish-fulfillment for the otakuest of otakus.
It's why I am very vary of VNs at this point; you think you're reading a decent story and WHAM - it was a wish-fulfillment story about [you] scoring chicks all along, as you witness a full-on porn scene (aka the presentation is pornographic). You then realize that the entire point of the story is that [You] have sex with anime girls, often in very selfish and unhealthy relationships.
Either that or it is a legitimate story ruined by random porn. xD
Anywho:
Games like HuniePop, however, ARE porn. As are the Sakura games. I was referring to games like that and, man, there are A LOT of them nowadays on Steam.
EDIT:
As far as the topic at hand goes, I have now learned that an outside-group is prodding Steam to do something and is randomly targeting these specific games. Lame.
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It depends on how you define "pornography", A very vile, sinister man, who once controlled what was considered "obscene" in the USA, something that people would be IMPRISONED for, and who determined what Americas should and should not be allowed to see, create, or make available to others, was once asked to provide his definition of pornography, His response was "I know it when I see it". I won't utter his name least I wake his now eternally damned soul. But the man responsible for setting the line couldn't tell anyone where the line was when asked to. And Valve had no problem taking their percentages from the sale of these soon to be removed games when they held their tongue and remained intentionally vague on what the boundaries were.
Porn IS ON Netflix. There are films that don't just show full frontal nudity, they show penetration. Some of it you might never have noticed. Willem Dafoe starred in a film called Antichrist recently, an indie film that had some decent reviews, and I saw that it was added to Netflix and I love Horror and Suspense films so I decided to check it out,,,, with my younger brother. And the movie is kinda plodding along and it's slow paced but we're like half watching it giving it a chance and then outta nowhere WHAM, penis thrusting in and out (well not completely out that's not how it works) of vagina. And we were stunned and both immediately said What the Fudge? (only we didn't say fudge) and we turned it off, not because we're prudes or aren't fans of penises going into vaginas (especially our own (penises jerk ( and not involving each other or one of us having a vagina other jerk))) .... it just wasn't the kind of movie either of us felt comfortable watching with a family member present (even though we were both born in West Virginia). If this was the 1950's, everyone who starred in that film and worked in the crew, everyone who works for Netflix, heck even us for watching it could and for some almost certainly would have gone to jail. And I've heard of other equally graphic things on Nflix as well.
So the lines are temporary and the tide rolls out and things that were jailable offenses have become common place. The problem that many of us have with this issue is that this involves the tide rolling back in, and comes after Valve made plenty of money taking their cut when copies of HuniePop abd games like it were at their peak. Wanna be all prim and proper and say Steam isn't the place for those games? Then give back the devs what you took from them. They can keep what they made from me.
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Softcore porn where woman is nude, or wearing a lingerie and her vagina is visible through it. Even showing boobs in certain way is softcore porn.
Hardcore porn where woman and man are having an intercourse.
Both are porn.
Netflix has a credit card verification and you can set your account a password and make a kids account that won't see any of that porn. You want Steam to have credit card verification that you are who you are, this way all scammers who get banned, or warnings you receive on Steam would be permanent for your credit card and your name, but you'd get that hentai game. You want that?
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And is Anime that shows graphic sex porn? Is the 1989 Anime "Urotsukidoji: Legend of the Overfiend" pornography? When it came out in 1989 a cartoon that showed demons with multiple penises (or is it penii?) penetrate women (raping them mostly IIRC) and then tearing them apart from the inside was considered extremely shocking. .Video Rental stores (ask your parents) that had the VHS (ask your grandparents) for rental kept it in the adult section or behind the counter and only rented it out for people who requested it by name as though it were a dirty magazine kept hidden behind the counter of a convenience store. Now you can buy it on freaking Amazon (do they sell porn, uh no) So I guess now it's not porn anymore?
In 1969, the movie that won the Oscar for Best Picture (and one of my top 5 of all time easily, maybe my number 1) was Midnight Cowboy starring then unknown Jon Voight and Dustin Hoffman. Midnight Cowboy has the distinction of being the only film to ever win Best Picture (or any other Oscar) while being X RATED. That's right. X Rated. The rating that designated a film to be pornography. Midnight Cowboy did not show any scenes that showed (staged or otherwise) graphic sex. It didn't even show male nudity or female nudity other than bare breasts but because of the subject matter that involved homosexuality and because of scenes that alluded to gay sex (only hinted at and never tried to depict), AND B/C IT WAS 1969, the film was judged to be something that Americans (little brother) should not be exposed to. It was Rated X to "protect" us much like children need protecting. Today it would receive an R, and minus the breasts and considering America is beginning to accept non-vanilla sexual preferences, with a little editing it could have a shot at PG -13.
So before you go throwing the word pornography I thought I'd give you a little history lesson to point out that "pornography" is a pretty empty word. The definition keeps changing but when it has changed in the past, it's been that things that were porn were suddenly no longer porn. Things don't move in the other direction. And if that's gonna be the way things are gonna be getting in the future and people want to start saying I need to have less freedom and I need to have someone else decide what I should be allowed to read, see, play, etc. I have a banana clip full of reasons, as a patriot and true lover of the USA,,of why I will never let that happen.
And one final point. in Japan, genitalia in actual pornography is pixelated (thanks to the missionaries that went there after WWII who promoted Western religion and the accompanying sexual repression to go with it). Yet in Japan it is very legal to show cartoon demon penii entering cartoon vaginas. So cartoons can show penetration and representations of genitalia. You know why they allow that? You know why they censor penii entering vaginae but not anime?
Because they are freaking cartoons. Anyone who says that cartoon nudity is porn or is deserving of being labeled as actual nudity... they really need to out and get some more, preferably in-person and firsthand experience of actual nudity... so they'll loosen up and stop being dicks to everyone.
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pornography definition man
Is that the guy who blamed everything on games, too? Fuck that guy.
what is pornography
There are definitions for pornography, though... Without looking them up, for me, it is: content/media/"art" creations that are primarily designed to generate sexual arousal and provide sexual stimulation through explicit, detailed and gratuitous depictions of sexual acts.
More loosely, I'd say that any content/media/"art" where that goal is secondary or tertiary also applies; this is pertinent to porn/hentai games as those can sometimes also be intended to entertain you with gameplay and VNs as those can sometimes also be intended to entertain you with a narrative. However, ultimately, the goal of sexual arousal and stimulation stays.
Now, you'll say this in response: "Fine, that is a fair definition of pornography; but who decides what is the primary goal of a piece of content/media/art?"
To that I will indeed say: "You'll know it when you see it". If the sexual acts are like in Game of Thrones, it is probably not porn but intended to showcase love/lust/passion (or just be saucy); if the sexual acts are like in a Brazzers video, it is porn.
And Valve had no problem taking their percentages from the sale of these soon to be removed games when they held their tongue and remained intentionally vague on what the boundaries were.
No arguments there. Despicable indeed.
If Porn is to remain on Steam, then it SHOULD be allowed to be completely blatant and uncensored; just mark them as 18+ or give them their own section.
If not, then it needs to be COMPLETELY forbidden; no skirting around rules or uncensor patches.
Netflix and Antichrist
First of all, that movie is from 2006 lol.
Second of all, no, that is not porn. That is a VERY graphic movie (dead stuff, bloody stuff) and it contains actual penetration because it is "SO MATURE" aka for shock value.
Or, of course, for some artistic value in the author's eyes.
Either way, it is in no shape, way or form Porn.
Steam
Again, either be all tidy and keep the platform mainstream and family friendly or just be 21st century and allow porn. I agree.
I also agree: Give them their money back if they do remove them.
But I disagree: the lines between porn and not-porn are clear. HuniePop is not a romantic comedy match-3; it is a erotic dating-sim match-3 - pornographic one once you use the patch.
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Human body in natural form = bad.
Human body limp, lifeless and bleeding out, riddled with bullets, or obliterated by a frag grenade = acceptable.
While I really don't care in the slightest about the sort of games which are potentially being pulled, I really can't get my head around this sort of thinking.
The same uptight prudes who see sex and the human form as a corrupting influence have no issue whatsoever with extreme violence and killing being fed to the same audience whose frail and impressionable minds they are supposedly so concerned for.
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after all what we've seen from valve they are taking those games down ?
i mean it won't bother them to put filter for those games as "adults" or something else.
why remove them is always easy for valve lol.
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If I have a HuniePop key laying around will it become invalid if the Steam takes it down? :)
P.S. It's from a humble bundle :)
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https://techraptor.net/content/huniepop-other-adult-games-facing-removal-steam-store
This is going to be big. What are your thoughts?
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