Former Commander of the 36th Marine Brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Sergey "Volyn" Volynsky from azovstal talk in russian (in pow camp) about azov battalion, army, and his current presents.
filmed around ~26.06.2022
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15 followers, that's some big yt channel
not to mention, the video is one month old and no one else talked about it
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nah, it's just another shady source, no one cares about and i'm baffled how you don't understand this by now and opt to add just more spam instead of backing up with reliable independent sources
not to mention, yt translator is doing a very bad job and as a non-ukrainian/-russian speaker you can't even grasp what he's saying, not that i would care
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he dont speak for camera english/german )))
you don't say, i couldn't have figured this out without your help
no one even took the effort to put proper subtitles, so it's not suitable for this thread
https://www.steamgifts.com/go/comment/KCvGdN8
actors was pay'ed, all staged. pg rating 0
as for the pointed out reasons, i couldn't understand what he was saying, so i can't judge his statements, but in general for russia, replace paid with tortured and threatened
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or you just could have posted some english article about it, but obviously you don't have one at hand and this will let your source seem even more shady
talk in russian
watch my link about the official statements of the mods about it
ps. gg with ur spammiing
funny, how you call reasoning spamming, but as i explained earlier it's not spamming, if you fail to understand the discussion and please don't accuse me of your misbehavings, but you can talk to cement about it, who accused me mutliple times of it and was suspended in the end because of spam
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To be more precise, it is actually a ДСП (Для служебного пользования) en.: For Official Use Only, equivalent in US: FOR OFFICIAL USE ONLY (FOUO) or RESTRICTED. This is primary information for a limited number of people. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classified_information_in_Russia (this is definitely available to you, due to the fact that you will not always be able to open government websites).
And if the investigative actions are public, then you can read about them everywhere, but I have not seen that the investigation has introduced its actions publicly, unless they want to fail this case and let the persons who are the main beneficiaries leave.
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what are you even talking about?
how is it related to the discussion?
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what are you even talking about?
A little background information on the "Classification of classified information in Russia".
With the addition of why it should be kept up to certain limits.
how is it related to the discussion?
In this case, it is a response to your wish to read it in the world media.
or you just could have posted some english article about it, but obviously you don't have one at hand and this will let your source seem even more shady
https://www.steamgifts.com/go/comment/vPFJ9EM Or is this not your request for publication?
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fuck, my head aches trying to understand you
you say because of classified information in russia you can't read anywhere about it?
but then a youtube video pops up? lol, corrupt russia is leaking
it's not even clear what he's talking about, because non-english speakers can't understand him, did he said something bad about pootin and russian war crimes?
In this case, it is a response to your wish to read it in the world media.
good you didn't stated this earlier and had to be asked about it, gave you the possibility to inflate the topic any further
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you say because of classified information in russia you can't read anywhere about it?
but then a youtube video pops up? lol, corrupt russia is leaking
it's not even clear what he's talking about, because non-english speakers can't understand him, did he said something bad about pootin and russian war crimes?
I can just put the original text (there is Russian) and the translation, but it will be a very long text. If someone knows how to make a compressed text on this forum, then let me know how to do it or I need consent to post this long message.
And so the answer is no, it's only about how the personnel were provided with food and ammunition.
But just if I do it, then you will be the first to run for the moderator. So I would like guarantees that there will be no sanctions for this.
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you mean like guarantees Ukraine had for handing over their nuclear arsenal?
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Russia reports nearly 40% rise in bankruptcy in first half of 2022
https://edition.cnn.com/europe/live-news/russia-ukraine-war-news-07-21-22/h_e34b3adaf57cc23e65e05316982a5e6c
I tried to find any comments on these issues on the Russian side.
Брифинг Министра экономического развития Максима Решетникова
http://government.ru/news/45262/
Вопрос: Ещё такой вопрос: в начале апреля Правительство ввело полугодовой мораторий на банкротство граждан и юрлиц. Коснётся ли это выплаты алиментов и причинённого вреда? И сохранится ли добровольное банкротство физических лиц?
М.Решетников: Во-первых, никто не запрещает добровольное банкротство. То есть если предприятие или физическое лицо видит невозможность выбраться из сложившейся ситуации с задолженностью самостоятельно, кроме как через процедуру банкротства, то такая возможность оставлена. Напомню, что процедура банкротства – это цивилизованная процедура, понятно, что она накладывает ограничение на какой-то период в будущем, но тем не менее это абсолютно цивилизованная процедура.
Второй момент – по поводу алиментов: нет, взимание алиментов является обязательной частью, и никакой мораторий на банкротство процедуры этой не в состоянии остановить.
It appears to me that the Russian Minister of Economic Development has written that individuals should file for bankruptcy after the grace period is over.
In other words, the economy and distribution within Russia will be much worse.
It seems to be a 6 month grace period starting in April and will be so starting in October.⌚📅
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Oh they have no idea what they have done to their economy with this war. And the worst has yet to come and it will last for yearssssssssssssss.
It would be better to own monopoly money than ruble.
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Yeah, it seems like a huge clusterfuck of events that have spiraled out of control for Kremlin. I just feel sad for those who still gobble up the Kremlin lies on how everything's fine.
Even the whole situation with gas ..... Pretty clear to anyone with half a brain Putin is controlling GazProm and what they do. The gas imports are used as a weapon against EU to try to pressure us into lifting sanctions. Although I have a feeling that is very nearsighted attempt to save face. With Russia being labeled as unreliable and dangerous they will only lose in long term. at least EU wont do any business with them and EU countries will finally reach independency. Will Russia find new partners and market in the east? Maybe, I simply don't know the topic that deeply... but EU does seem like a lost cause here for Russia. No one believes the lies anymore and treat everything with suspicion. I mean no one believed putin would just restart the gas flow after getting the turbine. He is THAT transparent. And of course every lie imaginable has been cooked up to lower gas flow and no one believes them.
Russia has isolated itself and its culture from west. G00ba and his likes can spam here as much as they like - credibility and trust have been lost.
PS. I mean, the whole gas situation just boggles the mind. They lower the amounts of gas trying to blackmail us, but only thing they accomplish is EU looking for other ways to get the gas. Basically Russia made the whole EU Say - fuck the costs, we need to be independent. I suppose it was a gamble on putins side - either EU would crumble under the pressure and give in or hes screwed either way. At least thats my take on it.... It just feels so counterproductive. Russia plays the victim all the time, how UA was to blame, how USA was to blame. But when the moment comes they could actually try to make friends with EU they act like stuck up children....
PPS. Same applies for the grain exports from UA ... I mean what do you expect to accomplish by signing a deal of letting the ships through and literally the next thing you do is bomb a fucking seaport? You constantly try to blame UA for being responsible for not being able to go on with grain exports and at the same time you bomb the fucking ports. Am I missing somethin or is Kremlin absolutely disconnected from what the world is aware of and still think that what they claim is not verifiable?
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I suppose it was a gamble on putins side
same with the war, pootin should stop gambling, because he's on a losing streak
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Man, I would love to play a game of poker with that guy. (But with real money, not rubles)
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If you play, then with gold bars or diamonds, but there is no interest in playing with hand-drawn paper. Now it costs so much, but in an hour it costs much less. So we don't put euros and dollars on the table either.
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Meh, you can blablabla all you want. But I don't feed trolls. Try someone else.
Or if you are begging for a cookie maybe I give you 1. But go on your knees and beg,
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Yeh, you are pretty much spot on. About the gas, well we will probably feel it for like 3 years or so. Luckily the EU has an extremely strong economy, unlike Russia who will feel it for at least 20-30 years after the war. They can still sell it to third world countries like india or china but they pay pennies, de EU pays a lotttttt more. Next to that, they are worried India will resell gas and oil to Europe. :P
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I'm with you on that in general, but I'm not so sure about the amount of damage Putin caused russia.
by now it's plain in sight (but not 100% considered by the west, yet - might be some degree of arrogance) that he aims at afrika for selling his energy. Will that work? I don't know... But I'm shure that this is his current play.
Russia has been investing in african countries for years now and they are clearly an emerging market. While I think he misgambled with the EU, I still think Afrika can soften the blow.
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The amount of damage Putin is causing Russia is economically enormous, It just takes a while for it to show. The USA and the EU don't want to have anything to do with them anymore. The 2 largest economic superpowers. That the ruble is high right now is because Russia is not allowing other currency. Well bit long to explain. But it will never last.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/russia-ukraine-ruble-currency-russian-economy-sanctioms-2022/
I have no idea about their relationship with African countries to be honest. But as most of these countries are even poorer than countries that still want to buy from Russia, the gas price will be even lower. Trading in worlds 2nd largest economy (EU) to a continent that is pretty damn low is not a very good business model. I am betting Africa rather gets some grain that the Russians are blocking. I am guessing poorer countries will miss the grain a lot more than us.
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The amount of damage Putin is causing Russia is economically enormous, It just takes a while for it to show. The USA and the EU don't want to have anything to do with them anymore. The 2 largest economic superpowers. That the ruble is high right now is because Russia is not allowing other currency. Well bit long to explain. But it will never last.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/russia-ukraine-ruble-currency-russian-economy-sanctioms-2022/
Actually, the entrance is available to money. But as many people have seen, the money in the electronic account can be frozen and they have become high-risk investments. Real money that can be held in your hands, so they will be in demand, but capital flows are needed for their receipt, and this is the movement of the people, but the people cannot move due to the ban on flights to EU countries. So it turns out that Euros and Dollars are not really needed (if only to buy something, which is already very difficult to do due to sanctions), but where it is necessary, then there is a different calculation or in another currency that the EU and the US simply do not see.
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The first economy in the world is China, and as you defined it there, then as a third world country.
And this is in addition. https://www.ilfattoquotidiano.it/2022/07/18/il-valore-reale-delleconomia-russa-perche-tagliarla-fuori-non-e-una-buona-idea/6659883/
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I wonder how the situation in Russia is related to this topic, if there is no connection, but how it is immediately written that there are PROBLEMS in Russia, that's the whole connection. If it's BAD in Russia, then it means it's for this topic. We have decided on the connection.
Even the whole situation with gas ..... Pretty clear...........flow and no one believes them.
As for Gazprom, you are an idiot, Putin does not control Gazprom, he cannot control it, but only a lazy person does not know about the fact that it is 50% owned by the Russian Government. Putin is only the President of Russia and can control the Russian government. So Gazprom is doing what the Russian Government says.
Gas imports are not used as weapons. There is no compressor, and the turbine is just a compressor drive unit, then there is no pumping. Canada transferred the turbine to Germany, but did not alter the transfer documents, and here the customs question comes first "How to get a turbine in Finland, if there is "Canada" in the documents" Initially Gazprom had to pick up the turbine in Canada itself. But the rest of the turbines have almost broken down (the inner coating has flown off on one and if you know how the turbine unit works, you will understand the situation, and if you don't know, then the answer is simple - the turbine will simply burn out if there is no protective coating and you will need not to restore the coating, but to manufacture a new turbine). And everyone remembers that by 2030 the EU wants to completely abandon gas from Russia. So they are already dealing with this issue.
Regarding the Yamal gas pipeline, EuRoPol GAZ nationalized its site, although 49% belongs to Gazprom (it also did not want to pay dividends to shareholders) and in this regard, the Russian Government issued an order that all work with nationalized companies be stopped.
As for the transfer of gas through Ukraine, then Ukraine itself refused one transfer point, leaving only 1 of 2.
Russia has isolated itself and its culture from west. G00ba and his likes can spam here as much as they like - credibility and trust have been lost.
Yes, she isolated them by canceling Russian performances and weeks, although stop, it was canceled in Europe, whereas she did it, did not let them in, no, they were ready to come, but Europe did not let them in, that's the answer. So Europe did the isolation, but blamed Russia for it.
PS. I mean, the whole gas..........act like stuck up children....
The decrease is due to the fact that the equipment needs to be prevented and serviced, and this should be done at the manufacturer Siemens-Montreal. If there is no motor, then you can do anything and do anything, but there will be no motor, it must be brought or carried out to the fact that there is a small repair.
And friendship in the form of what you give us, but we will not pay Russia has become not very interesting. Look at how the countries of Asia, not Europe, have now begun to conclude contracts for supplies, some of them are already switching to payment in their own currencies, not dollars and euros.
PPS. Same applies for the grain exports from UA..........claim is not verifiable?
There is an export agreement, now it has become more difficult to blame the food crisis because of Russia, but exports are available. And the inspection is necessary due to the fact that we remember how 2 Caesars were bought, suddenly someone also bought here and under the guise of grain is lucky. And the strike was not bombs (if you brought this information, then the media lied to you, and the Ukrainian media did not lie here), but they removed Missiles, which are quite high-precision and the task of this strike was completed. In the dock, the ship of the Ukrainian Navy received very heavy damage. If another warehouse with Harpoon missiles was demolished, then this is also a military infrastructure. And the accusations are primitive if you read them. "Remove the mines from the fairway." That's the whole charge. Zelensky's answer is available. Why the ships could not go. If the ships were sailing, they were inspected and some were missed, and some were not, and then, as it seems to me, the situation would have become a full-fledged World War 3 in connection with military smuggling. The Union Jack is not always a protection to the ship.
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wow, was suspendend for spam and just drops multiple posts and a wall of text filling 1.5 screens, don't let MSKOTOR see that one
also insulting an user, claiming some private blog would be an addition, fails to understand the connection that the current situation in russia is caused by sanctions, because russia invaded a soverign country, tries to defend the gas situation, like suddenly all turbines broke down or need maintenance, when there was no problems before and everything just arisen with the war, you must be dumb to not see the correlation
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u report news without of understanding
pity.
explanation: i'm running laundry. the income and the costs are not equal. and they not cover the cost of running all this, i may call to gov to bankruptcy. that all, story end.
especially then not friendly govs disrupts citizen business.
like terrorists they want money and helicopter. ...
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Your point being?
you just described bankruptcy as to a 4 year old. That changes the fact bankruptcy is up 40% how?
At least try to not sound like someone from mental ward.
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Another gesture of goodwill from Russia: Russia Accidentally Shoots Down Its Own Helicopter, Ukraine Military Claims
The General Staff of Ukraine's Armed Forces said that three Russian Ka-52 "Alligator" helicopters had been flying in the Kherson region in the south of the country with the intention of attacking Ukrainian units but "struck their own" instead.
Believed to be one of Russia's most powerful helicopters, the Ka-52 provides direct support for troops on the battlefield and is capable of detecting and attacking any targets. In 2020, Russia had 127 of the helicopters, each of which cost around $16 million, according to Military Today.
Ukrainian forces destroy Russian ammo depots near Kharkiv
Usually the ones displayed are like fireworks. This one has a lot of smoke, it's relaxing to watch.
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Congratulations on Statehood day.to Ukrainian heroes.
https://twitter.com/MFA_Ukraine/status/1552573037521797120
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Russian Casualties in Ukraine Surpass 75,000: U.S. Intelligence
Representative Elissa Slotkin on Wednesday told CNN that over 75,000 Russian soldiers have been either killed or wounded since Russia began its invasion on February 24. Slotkin made the remarks after attending a classified briefing on the war in Ukraine with Biden administration officials who described the Russian military as drained.
In the leadup to its invasion of Ukraine, Russia reportedly amassed 150,000 soldiers along the Ukrainian border.
Describing the figure as "huge," Slotkin told CNN that the Russian military has made "incredible amounts of investment in their land forces," over 80 percent of which she said are "bogged down" and tired.
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Ukraine receives German rocket launchers in latest batch of weapons aid
https://www.thenationalnews.com/world/europe/2022/07/27/ukraine-receives-german-rocket-launchers-in-latest-batch-of-weapons-aid/
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https://www.dw.com/ru/der-spiegel-u-vsu-voznikli-problemy-s-nemeckimi-gaubicami-pzh-2000/a-62647031
https://focus.ua/voennye-novosti/523840-u-vsu-voznikli-problemy-s-nemeckimi-sau-pzh-2000-cherez-mesyac-ispolzovaniya-der-spiegel
https://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/ukraine-panzerhaubitze-2000-mit-verschleisserscheinungen-a-e0a3bc00-5e4b-40fa-821a-c2d158079133
A small addition, just for information.
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wear and tear is just normal, repair parts will be sent and everything will be okay again, it's not like they are destroyed
not to mention the news is more about rocket launchers and not the Pzh 2000, but thanks for your little deflection
i guess russian artillery isn't suffering from this wear and tear, because they are made out of Stalinium, right?
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wear and tear is just normal, repair parts will be sent and everything will be okay again, it's not like they are destroyed
not to mention the news is more about rocket launchers and not the Pzh 2000, but thanks for your little deflection
But 100 shots a day at 10 per minute is not a very good indicator? 10 minutes of shooting and that's it, you can't shoot, but what about the fighting or we stop - "We stop fighting due to the fact that we will shoot 100 times and will shoot tomorrow, but for now there is a break." Doesn't that sound silly?
i guess russian artillery isn't suffering from this wear and tear, because they are made out of Stalinium, right?
I will not be able to answer this question, due to the fact that I do not have access to the secrets of the СС (Совершенно Секретно) category.
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But 100 shots a day at 10 per minute is not a very good indicator? 10 minutes of shooting and that's it, you can't shoot, but what about the fighting or we stop - "We stop fighting due to the fact that we will shoot 100 times and will shoot tomorrow, but for now there is a break." Doesn't that sound silly?
who asked about that? no one wants to discuss this with you
usual cementales move, learned nothing from "vacation"
PzH 2000 seems so bad, that Ukraine ordered 100 units of them
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I just saw this game <<Ukraine War Stories>> on Steam developed by Ukraine game developers.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1985510/Ukraine_War_Stories/
According to the description, it's going to be free.
But, at least we can support them by adding the game to the wishlist.
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I didn't watch the video but I heard about it yesterday, there.
Video of Russian Soldier Allegedly Castrating Ukraine POW Sparks Outrage
The clip, posted on a pro-Russian account on Telegram, shows a man in a Ukrainian uniform with his hands tied behind his back pinned down, while a man in a Russian uniform and a black hat uses what look like bolt cutters to apparently castrate him.
The Times of London's assistant foreign editor, Maxim Tucker, has tweeted that the video is "genuine" according to the investigative website Bellingcat.
Tucker posted that Bellingcat said "the same soldier appeared on a Russian TV clip (with same hat and bracelet) and there was no evidence the video had been manipulated."
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That`s a good thing you didn't watch it. Now I wish that somebody have warned me about contents of that video before I watched it.
If you, random lurker out there, can`t stand torture/blood/screams then DONT watch it, you have been warned.
Ironically this video was posted by ruzzian orcs just after Lavrov's speech about gentle work of ruzzian army. Now I want to know how our pro-russian "friends" will defend this act of terrorism against ukrainian pows
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sees some rando man. reaction: uuuuuu, it a pow.!!
sees some rando man with a hat cosplay of Crocodile Dundee. reaction: uuuuuu, it a russian soldier.!!
meh...
soldiers have their strictly equipment.
mercenary / or just rando war guy who like warfare - may have custom outfit like Crocodile Dundee hat.
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Are that fucked up in your head? Literal person was tortured and castrated by a blunt knife then dragged behind a car. And thats your reaction? Holy fucks, you are totally lost to humanity
Upd: The people that did that recorded a reaction video to the outcry. Their leader responds with: Haha there is people after me, and we will do this to every ukrainian pow, we dont take them alive. Reaction folloved by pictures of mutilated ukrainian soldiers. So the ruzzians are clearly proud of their"denazification"
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why u are telling that to me? i also don't watch this video.
and don't want. just have read provided by Glorow description.
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I`m not talking directly to you, just showing others hundreds of readers that follow this thread how fucked up are people that favor this war
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He was already identified and all his info made public.
Unit: "Akhmat" Special Rapid-Response Unit (SOBR), Kadyrovites, assigned to the 2nd Army Corps, LPR
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Goood. Now Google images of this battalion. His outfit and look matches to them?
Noooooo, bc he doesn't have beard. And he according to face has different nationality.
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https://youtu.be/P1H_Et9iFg8?t=18
https://youtu.be/42BZbXsMPS0?t=29
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some ppl are just that stupid
evidence in plane sight, but no
naZi ruSS and their strict equipment
its like the more you go east the more dumb they are
guess its waiting for instructions while being cornered
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users in 4chan board already on the right way.
they found that guy innocent. lol.
but.... they working on theory that all who was there - ukrainians.
for some reasons i cannot post the pics and content from investigation here...
so just go and see them.
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Easy and simple. The first question. Where is the video itself, and not an interview with the fighter. That's the first question I want to get an answer to, and the video itself.
On Twitter, only the written text and a piece from the interview, which then went to RIA Novosti. It looks like this news has already been published here https://youtu.be/42BZbXsMPS0?t=104 https://www.steamgifts.com/go/comment/W808wUu
And so half of the discussions on Reddit that we are sorry, but we did not watch the video, but we condemn what is in the video.
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I won`t link the video here, it's very gory and against the rules. So search for it yourself. Easy and simple - you can start with ruzzian telegram publics, they were forcing the video around with joy
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I won`t link the video here, it's very gory and against the rules. So search for it yourself. Easy and simple - you can start with ruzzian telegram publics, they were forcing the video around with joy
What I saw on the link, that's what I asked about. But to look for another video that is not on the link, then you can find something that they don't really want to see on the other side. So I would like a link indicating that it refers to a certain type of information (here it is necessary to clarify how to transmit it without violating the rules), otherwise there is no way to build a line of defense due to the fact that there is no subject of discussion.
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Oh it's not alleged. And after he castrated him (poor guy was fully conscious), they shot him, then dragged the body behind a car. All documented and uploaded.
Fucking russian nazis. This is what we're standing up against. Fucking animals, even worse.
But yes, for the love of god, people, DO NOT WATCH that video. It will haunt you for the rest of your life. Regular, good natured people cannot watch that and not get traumatized. Orcs, on the contrary, seem to enjoy it a lot, which is saying something.
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let me correct you
ruSSian naZis
and let me remember you they already collaborated with hitler and started WW2 with hitler
same methods
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Trust me, I know. Wish I didn't. Wish there was no fucked-up neighbor with a Hitler fetish, but here we are =(
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Ukraine war: Russia and Ukraine trade blame over prison blast (at least 40 people were killed in Olenivka)
Ukraine says the prison was targeted by Russia in an effort to destroy evidence of torture and killing.
For its part, Russia said the prison camp in Olenivka was hit by Ukrainian precision rockets.
Ukraine's new Prosecutor-General Andriy Kostin said he had opened a war crimes investigation into the blast. His office added that it believed about 40 people were killed in the strike and 130 were injured.
Russia's defence ministry said the strike had been carried out with US-made Himars artillery and it accused Ukraine of a "deliberately perpetrated" provocation. The ministry produced fragments of what it said were rockets fired by the Himars system.
The ministry's spokesperson, Lt Gen Igor Konashenkov, said eight prison staff were also injured in the blast, although the Russian-backed proxy authority ombudswoman said none had been affected.
Mykhailo Podolyak, another adviser to President Zelensky, said the Russian allegations were "a classic, cynical and elaborate false flag operation" designed to discredit Ukrainian authorities.
It has been established that a number of Ukrainian troops who surrendered to Russian forces after a protracted siege at the Azovstal steel plant in Mariupol were taken to Olenivka.
Ukrainian officials have said that prisoners-of-war at Olenivka were tortured.
I don't trust Russia, but I searched for Russian statements, there.
Russia’s Defense Ministry accused Ukraine of carrying out the attack using U.S.-supplied HIMARS. The ministry framed the incident as “a bloody provocation” intended to discourage Ukrainian soldiers from surrendering.
Russian media commentators suggested that Ukraine hit the detention center to stop the prisoners from providing testimony to interrogators about war crimes committed by Ukrainian forces.
This is the Russian alternate reality. As if Russia could be trusted to judge war crimes. Moreover, I doubt that the castration of prisoners of war is an encouragement to surrender.
/cloudfront-us-east-2.images.arcpublishing.com/reuters/N2QDRGUHX5I35CZV6QYOGDZMFU.jpg "Their \"proof\": Fragments of HIMARS rockets collected by the Russians, with all the strikes, this is not a difficult task.")
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Prisoners were transfered there two days before the "strike" happened. The bodies look extremely malnourished, lots of blood around with no bodies - they were torturing them, hard. Not a single casuality amongst the orc guards - truly a "miracle".
All in all, a poor attempt to hide their war crimes, and blame Ukraine for them. Fuck russia.
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About the Russian "miracle", their statements did not match:
The ministry's spokesperson, Lt Gen Igor Konashenkov, said eight prison staff were also injured in the blast, although the Russian-backed proxy authority ombudswoman said none had been affected.
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Prisoners were transfered there two days before the "strike" happened.
Are you serious? They were there starting from the middle of May. And after that Ukrainian army systematically strikes there
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Not a single casuality amongst the orc guards - truly a "miracle".
And you lied here again. At least 8 men were injured
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You can use Google Chrome. There is a translator that can translate any page into the desired language. Or use Google translate extension for any browser you use
And probably you didn't noticed that there is english description before links, as moderators asked
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you don't say, i couldn't have figured this out without your help
and i already explained it many times before, how russian news isn't aimed for a western audience
and of course, arguing points a mod stated again
bruh, latin letters doesn't mean by default it's english, raket iz grada po elenovke, duh
Edit: i see you altered your links to Link1-5 but that doesn't change the fact, that they are non-english news and are, as MSKOTOR said, inappropiate
not to talk about the reliability of your government-funded sources
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I don't have any problem reading these with Google translate. And I don't see anything in the guidelines prohibiting posters from linking to non English media sites. In fact, I believe that would be very wrong, considering how that would impact all the people who use this site who are from non English speaking and non Western countries. Carry on.
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and another pro-pootin troll who thinks they stand above the mods and arguing points
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Got a real argument besides the usual lazy ad hominem?
Supporting the speech of everyone on this site doesn't make me pro anything except pro free speech. Mods follow the rules and guidelines of this site just like everyone else. I stand neither above nor below them as they are not empowered to make up their own rules.
Suggesting that people shouldn't be allowed to talk, simply because they don't agree with you is an authoritarian position.- kind of reminiscent of Putin, yeah?
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here we go again, twisting and bending everything, it was not me who was suggesting anything
pro free speech is a very hostile stance, because it'll also support insults, hate and all other stupid stuff people have in their minds
imagine one freely denying the holocaust, good you support such free speech
or take a look at the press freedom index and aim your critics to those countries at the bottom of the list
it's also funny, how you reinforce that user to spread his one sided government-funded view, where most people of that country aren't being able to form their own opinion, because the press is so restricted
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Free speech is fine, but what the russian trolls are doing is muddying the waters. there is no "second truth". There's only one. russia invaded Ukraine on pretend reasons, they are committing genocide, and they are being smug about it. And their troll army is creating the feel of "oh, it's not so black and white, everybody lies, Ukraine is to blame, They are nazis, and not glorious russia, nono", and so on.
Freedom of speech should end where hate speech begins. Any words supporting russia are hate speech.
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First of all. it common sense and polite to speak in a world language on an international forum.
English is also not my first language but you don't see me spam Dutch everywhere.
If your parents didn't teach you manners over all these years, then a mod just did it for them, Just listen don't go cry us a river. If you don't like the rules or mods, go away? It's not that difficult.
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Which rule is that? Did I miss something in the guidelines? Mods are not here to make the rules, just to enforce them. I think you are confused.
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don't be so narrow-minded and just take the description of the rules as rules, this isn't a law text, which covers any case
MSKOTOR said it's inappropiate, so i think she means rule 2
it could also be
- unsafe content, considering the shady propaganda sources, who are not very credible
- hate speech, because these sources denouncing the Ukrainians as Nazis and glorifying war crimes
- spam, because trolls are eager to reply to each and everyone, latest example just see above
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I didn't particularly say this is a rule.(mod MSKOTOR and prosac already covered that) I said its common sense and polite to speak in an international language..So, I am not the one who is confused.
There are more than 7100 languages in the world.
Don't you think it will be extremely confusing if they all start speaking here in their own language?
I guess it would be kinda funny seeing everybody talking gibberish to each other. But then it won't be much of a discussion forum anymore, would it?
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You can shove your links where the sun doesn't shine.
Here's a link from your russian channel, saying none of the guards were harmed: https://t.me/nexta_live/33633
The link is just for the stubborn Hammer, who cannot even try to look around a bit.
For everybody else, the woman says that "luckily, no guards were harmed".
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Nexta is a Polish channel designed for Belarus, it should not be attributed to the Russian media. This is not true.
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On the contrary to russia-sponsored channels you guys usually provide? lol.
The woman seems real enough to me, speaks russian, with a russian channel watermark. Content is 100% relevant to this discussion.
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oh dear
Poland has nothing to do with NEXTA
get your facts straight
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nexta Headquarters location: Warsaw, Poland. https://t.me/s/nexta_tv (Новости, аналитика, инсайды о Беларуси)
If they have changed their location, then it has passed me by, but it is unlikely that they have moved to Belarus.
In fact, I gave the answer a little wrong, it's not about the channel, but about the message that this channel posted, and I thought it on the channel. Why didn't I refute Vassay's message, in which he noticed my mistake.
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from your own link:
Nexta (pronounced niekh-ta, Belarusian pronunciation: [nʲexta]) is a Belarusian media outlet
easy one, cement disproven
you brought up that stupid argument with headquarters before and i explained it to you
https://www.steamgifts.com/go/comment/ptumwCB
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from your own link:
Nexta (pronounced niekh-ta, Belarusian pronunciation: [nʲexta]) is a Belarusian media outlet
easy one, cement disproven
Nexta (pronounced niekh-ta, Belarusian pronunciation: [nʲexta]) is a Belarusian media outlet that is primarily distributed through Telegram and YouTube channels. The YouTube channel was founded by then 17-year-old student Stsiapan Putsila.[1][2] The channel's headquarters are located in Warsaw, Poland, after its founder went into exile.[3]
I just wrote in full, not a piece, as you did.
you brought up that stupid argument with headquarters before and i explained it to you
https://www.steamgifts.com/go/comment/ptumwCB
It's just that if you believe your definition, then Deutsche Welle, which broadcasts to Russia, will be Russian independent media, which is fundamentally not true. That's why I can't accept your explanation.
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stop bothering me, when you repeat what i've already wrote or explained to you earlier, don't get annoying
quoting the full text doesn't change anything to it, you still got disproven, but i see you've taken the straw to inflate the topic
spammy spam cementales
It's just that if you believe your definition, then Deutsche Welle, which broadcasts to Russia, will be Russian independent media, which is fundamentally not true. That's why I can't accept your explanation.
according to my definition founders of Deutsche Welle have to be russians to be russian media, don't twist and bend things
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And why you afraid to post link on the full video?
Probably because it confirms everything I said earlier.
Also you may watch interviews with injured Ukrainian soldiers there.
Maybe you do not understand meaning of her words that "they are in satisfactory condition". I'll explain it to you. It means that they did not get serious injuries(such as loss of a limb, or something like that), but they are in hospital. You can read more about patient assessments here.
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lol, "afraid". Rather, I am repulsed by russian propaganda channels, I can only digest their crap in a very refined, cut form.
Also, WOW, it's incredible that your points are directly laid out in the video made by a propaganda channel, sponsored by a terrorist country. Who would have thought, eh?
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WOW, it's incredible that your points are directly laid out in the video made by a propaganda channel
because it's aimed at the simple minded
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And as we all can see, it seems to work on general russian population :D
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I see. So if they told that 2+2 = 4 then you deny it
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but often the 2 is not a 2, which also affects the sum
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If they told that 2+2 = 4 that would be a miracle.
Because now they're saying 2 is a nazi, and wants to kill the other 2, so big kind russia has to intervene to save the math.
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The SBU claimed it had intercepted phone calls “in which the occupiers confirm that Russian troops are to blame for this tragedy”. The intercepted conversations indicated the Russians may have placed explosives in the prison, the agency said in a statement. “In particular, none of the eyewitnesses heard any missile flying towards the correctional facility. There was no characteristic whistling, and the explosions occurred on their own.”
In addition, online video footage showed that the windows remained whole in some rooms of the facility, according to the SBU. That “indicates that the epicentre of the explosion was inside the destroyed building, and its walls took the hit from the blast waves, protecting some of the neighbouring rooms.”
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This is the Russian alternate reality. As if Russia could be trusted to judge war crimes.
There is no confidence in the EU in connection with the latest actions. So we came to the conclusion that no one trusts anyone. That's all.
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You need a reminder.
April 2022, The UN General Assembly voted to suspend Russia's membership in the UN Human Rights Council. Only 23 countries sided with Russia. Most of these 23 countries are dictatorships or autocracies.
https://twitter.com/UN_News_Centre/status/1512095779535609862
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And what does Russia have to do with it? The DPR and the LPR are independent states. They are not Russia. Do not confuse.
And the absence of members of the Human Rights Council shows that all imposed decisions of this council can be flushed down the toilet not accepted for execution and nothing will be done for it.
https://news.un.org/en/story/2022/04/1115782 Yes, and the link could be made immediately to the UN.
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The DPR and the LPR are independent states.
who says that, 3 countries?
and it was already proven earlier, that these countries wouldn't exist with the help of russia
And what does Russia have to do with it?
according to former conclusions, everything?
can be flushed down the toilet
at least we can flush our inhouse toilets and don't have to go to a outhouse, like in a third world country
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Russian video to encourage foreigners to move to Russia, quotes from the video:
This is Russia - Delicious cuisine - beautiful women - cheap gas - rich history - world famous literature - unique architecture - fertile soil - cheap electricity and water - ballet - cheap taxi and delivery - traditional values - christianity - no cancel culture - hospitality - vodka - economy that can withstand thousands of sanctions - TIME TO MOVE TO RUSSIA! - don't delay... winter is coming
"no cancel culture", they only want to cancel Ukraine, that's different.
"hospitality", the kidnapped Ukrainians know about it, the prisoners of war know it even more.
"winter is coming", after the winter, will Putin and his schizo-fascists still have hope?
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The only ones doing the genocide are the russian soldiers. All the people would still be alive if fucking Orcistan didn't start the local war in 2014
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You wanted to say if the United States had not carried out an armed coup d'etat and had not started a civil war in Ukraine.
Don't fool everyone here. People who have more than half of the brain perfectly understand when and how it all began.
And as always, you have nothing to say about the news, and you just keep talking, leading away from the topic of conversation
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do you have any proofs for your claims from reliable independent sources?
I see this claim over and over again, but none of you trolls provided any proof from reliable independent sources yet, so maybe it's just another urban tale.
People who have more than half of the brain perfectly understand when and how it all began.
Yep, let me provide you a link once more
https://www.steamgifts.com/go/comment/1duG7Pf
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ah, very reliable sources, providing news like this:
https://moderndiplomacy.eu/2022/07/30/why-the-eu-could-end-within-a-year/
...although the European publication Modern Diplomacy describes itself as "a leading European opinion-maker with far-reaching influence across the Middle East, Africa, and Asia," its editorial standards are apparently so low that it has published an article...
https://www.archons.org/-/modern-diplomacy-publishes-russian-linked-propaganda-to-discredit-ecumenical-patriarchate
did you found this source at the bottom of the trash bin?
and Vita? Never heard of it, they may be independent, but are they reliable as the big players such as CNN and BBC or just some local news?
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Seems like your arguments ended, as always in our talks
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nah, i'm just looking for sources who claim the opposite
and at least i'm the one who have any arguments at all and not just some propaganda and unreliable trash sources on hand
In fact, what occurred in Ukraine in February 2014 was not an armed coup, and there is no credible evidence that protesters were “agents” of the United States or any other country.
https://www.polygraph.info/a/ukrainian-maidan-was-not-a-coup/29098965.html
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Yep, another your propagandistic source. Thanks
In fact, what occurred in Ukraine in February 2014 was not an armed coup
It's easy to check that you like to lie even in such simple things
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Yep, another your propagandistic source. Thanks
do you have any proof about your assumption?
Or is every news you dislike by default propaganda?
but i have further evidence from fact checkers:
https://voxukraine.org/en/the-maidan-in-2014-is-a-coup-d-etat-a-review-of-italian-and-german-pro-russian-media/
https://euvsdisinfo.eu/report/there-was-a-putsch-in-ukraine-and-today-the-country-is-a-totalitarian-state#
https://euvsdisinfo.eu/report/ukrainian-civil-war-broke-out-as-a-result-of-coup-detat-in-kyiv
It's easy to check that you like to lie even in such simple things
I myself lied, where? nice accusation
i provided links, does this make me a liar, i don't think so
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Or is every news you dislike by default propaganda?
Probably you meant yourself. And again send links to propagandistic sources. Seems like you haven't arguments against facts
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well, i even pointed out reasons, why i doubt the trustworthiness of your provided sites, while you stubbornly spamming just propaganda, so no, i didn't meant myself
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As everyone knows, Russia's primary objective is to defend human rights.
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Seems like you forgot how Ukraine and USA were against the resolution on combating the glorification of Nazism. Of course the Nazis always support the Nazis
And as always, you have nothing to say about the news, and you just keep talking, leading away from the topic of conversation
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Ukraine will never support Moscow's empty statements.
It was 2022, another representative of the country that defeated Nazism:
https://news.ru/autosport/rossijskij-gonshik-kinul-zigu-vo-vremya-nagrazhdeniya-na-che-po-kartingu/
Not to mention a dozen calls for ukrainian genocide from russian official representatives
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And again, bots have nothing to say about the news, and you just keep useless talking.
I wonder how sideways you dragged the Italian racer to Russia?
Not to mention a dozen calls for ukrainian genocide from russian official representatives
But unfortunetaly you couldn't post links just on several of them.I think 5 links could be enough if there are really "a dozen calls"
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Italian racer? Do you even read the news that I linked? And you calling me a bot just after that...
As for links, check any reports from Solovyev(Not sure if I spelled the name right). Its the easiest way to show what im talking about
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As for links, check any reports from Solovyev
Who is it? The president? Minister? MP? State official?
Italian racer?
Seems like you do not know how looks Russian and Italian flag
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This is a russian journalist on the federal state TV channel. Not high enough for you? He can freely call for genocide with no reaction from russian government?
Again, read carefully where is said "italian racer" from, and try again. Also read how he get in that competition
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If you don't have anything useful to say, then what the point of your talking?
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Where is your link where Solovyev call to kill ukrainians?
Edit: Seems like you can't find it. Becasue everything you told was a lie
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Becasue everything you told was a lie
like you with your italian racer named Artem Severyukhin, but maybe they secretly call him by his nickname Luigi?
incredible, how much BS you stir up
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I wonder how low the IQ should be for a person who cannot distinguish the Italian flag from the Russian one. It seems to people like you that Obama was the president of Kenya. Because his parents were from Kenya and he became president. Great logic.
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i explained it to you below and wouldn't spam the answer 2 times
not to mention no one talked about the damn flag, which proves just nothing, well tbh it will prove one thing, but i don't want to get on your low level and throw insults around
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here is a english news about it:
https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/motor-racing/russian-kart-racer-nazi-salute-podium-fia-b2055594.html
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It seems that you also cannot distinguish the Italian flag from the Russian one.
https://www.steamgifts.com/go/comment/qpeZHtv
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so you say this flag states his nationality in his passport, when every news source stated, that he's an russian racer who just competes under the italian flag, not to mention his very italian name, c'mon this is an insult to smart people
Severyukhin had obtained the Italian license, as foreseen by the FIA (Fédération Internationale de l'Automobile) regulations, which allow young drivers of any nationality the widest freedom of movement among International Federations, in order to allow them to grow professionally in those countries - such as Italy - which have a great tradition in motorsport training and in starting drivers to become professionals.
https://www.automobilsport.com/aci-sport-licence-withdrawn-russian-driver-artem-severyukhin---236274.html
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So it wasn't a creativity challenge with pro-Russian bullshit, my apologies.
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you're talking of these nazis?
https://www.steamgifts.com/go/comment/g6qqngD
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(here we go again) For schizo-fascists, food for thought: (from an Israeli online newspaper)
Israel to send new batch of defensive equipment to Ukraine
The latest aid package will include 1,500 helmets, 1,500 protective vests, hundreds of mine protection suits, 1,000 gas masks and dozens of hazmat filtration systems, according to Gantz’s office.
I doubt Israel gives neo-Nazis helmets and protective vests. Israel does not believe Ukraine is run by neo-Nazis.
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The Ruzzians have been using petal cluster bombs since the beginning of the war. The same Kharkov was littered with them, is this also genocide or something else?
This is the very first warning as the Ruzzia started to use them against civilians:
https://www.facebook.com/irina.venediktova.31/posts/5256823024330590
UPD: Also about your statement, just yesterday Zelensky officially started evacuation of remaining civilians from Donetsk before another big fight will break out
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As always, no proofs. All your evidence is just a photo of a mine somewhere where it can't be identified.
UPD: Also about your statement, just yesterday Zelensky officially started evacuation of remaining civilians from Donetsk before another big fight will break out
You probably do not understand ukrainian language, or didn't know the situation in country. Zelensky's statement in no way concerns the city of Donetsk. It refers to such cities as Slavyansk and Kramatorsk. And it’s strange that it doesn’t bother you in any way that he starts to took care of protecting civilians only for the 6th month of hostilities. Where he was all 6 month before? What a caring President Zelensky
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And what's your proof exactly? All I see is a propagandist talking about video where people walking around in the night talking about the mines. Link a video where I can clearly see ukrainian mine that drop said "leafs". You have very high demand of `quality of my proofs, but what about you?
And President Zelensky indeed caring. About people that still remain under his care
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Nope, still not enogh. I can't see where the missiles are coming from. It is not known if ZSU launched them
Upd
And I want to clear something in my position in all of this. I`m not sure if this a provocation or actual war crime from ukrainian army. But I can assure you that I condemn any war crime from both armies
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KEKW, imagine using Telegram as reliable proof
not to talk about the inappropriateness of the links with a guy speaking russian or whatever without subtitles, gently ignoring the statement of the mods about it, which was provided to you earlier
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As always, no proofs.
oh, there was proof several sites before, don't join on site 36 or so and just claim there were no proofs, when you don't know what went on and just will embarrass yourself
https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2022/06/ukraine-hundreds-killed-in-relentless-russian-shelling-of-kharkiv-new-investigation/
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Could you stop posting links where it's all in some kind of gibberish language? It's annoying as fuck.
And 1 single look at the person who is talking gibberish this isn't an independent news channel.
I am not going to hurt my eyes and ears for this nonsense.
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isn't it funny how these trolls think some random blog in russian would be an addition to the discussion in any form, not to mention their telegram and other kind of unreliable sources
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It's dumbfounding. But yeh, also kinda funny. :P
But I am always kinda curious if they get paid to be stupid or if they are actually stupid.
And I am stupid for still sometimes clicking the link. It is always just a link to a blog of vlog of some opinion of some pro Russian extremist. I really won't waste my time looking at them anymore. :P
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anatoly_Shariy Well, a Ukrainian blogger living in Spain is also good. He has nothing to do with Russia.
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Also, he had a large part in stirring up Donbass unrest, he was paid by russia even then, back in 2014, so he is also responsible for tons of deaths because of his deliberate misinformation.
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You say it yourself.... A blogger....
How do you people not understand this? :D
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The anger of the minorities fighting Russia’s war
https://www.ft.com/content/e98976cd-27e2-455d-806a-fe1618b86cb5
Russia is recruiting thousands of volunteers to replenish its ranks in Ukraine. Prior experience isn't always required
https://edition.cnn.com/2022/07/29/europe/russia-recruits-volunteer-battalions-ukraine-war-cmd-intl/index.html
What happened to Russia’s anti-war movement?
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/7/15/what-happened-to-russias-anti-war-movement
Ukraine's Kherson to Be 'Liberated' From Russia By September – Official
https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022/07/24/ukraines-kherson-to-be-liberated-from-russia-by-september-official-a78390
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The anger of the minorities fighting Russia’s war
https://www.ft.com/content/e98976cd-27e2-455d-806a-fe1618b86cb5
Sorry, but how much will you get when we click on the referral link after we subscribe. The minimum price is $ 1 for 4 weeks and then Trial. Is this article available without a subscription?
Russia is recruiting thousands of volunteers to replenish its ranks in Ukraine. Prior experience isn't always required
https://edition.cnn.com/2022/07/29/europe/russia-recruits-volunteer-battalions-ukraine-war-cmd-intl/index.html
The article is not very accurate, they confuse the concepts of Volunteer and Mobilized. A volunteer is a person who voluntarily went to serve under a contract or another contractor, but a mobilized person is a person called up for military service due to necessity or according to the law on compulsory military service. As for studying, then a month will just go to Those Mobilized in accordance with the Conscription for military service upon reaching the age of 18. The training of Contract workers is completely different, they look at what they know and what position they will go to, but with Volunteers there is another option. No one will throw untrained people into the operation, not those conditions.
But this is understandable due to the fact that the report was done by a journalist from Europe, possibly the United States, and he asked for advice from the intelligence service of England.
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bruh, what referral link?
you should get educated first, before claiming untrue things, ah wait, you have a history there
i googled "Asians of Russia Foundation" and clicked the link on Google, after that i could read the article just fine, didn't know the site has a paywall
The article is not very accurate, they confuse the concepts of Volunteer and Mobilized.
you're nitpicking, trying to find any flaws, pointing out inaccuracies and trying to sow doubt and cause distrust in information sources that are usually seen as legitimate, when it doesn't change the core of the news
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you're nitpicking, trying to find any flaws, pointing out inaccuracies and trying to sow doubt and cause distrust in information sources that are usually seen as legitimate, when it doesn't change the core of the news
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_devil_is_in_the_details Sometimes small inaccuracies just completely change the picture. I did not find fault with the whole article, it is generally written correctly, just the error goes into the connection of definitions, which is exactly what I wrote about. And so a normal article and you can read it, which I actually did.
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and sometimes small inaccuracies doesn't completely change the picture, so what's your point?
you're trying to suggest, that every small inaccuracy could change the whole picture, when this would only be the case in a very small fragment of cases, nice brainwash attempt
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and sometimes small inaccuracies doesn't completely change the picture, so what's your point?
https://www.steamgifts.com/go/comment/UJvVJfP It is already indicated here. Moreover, even a little definition is given. It is simply impossible to mobilize a Volunteer. I can't do it. That's just it will be possible to issue a military ticket and send it to the unit.
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and i can stupidly point to my answer
https://www.steamgifts.com/go/comment/PLDlEZU
your nitpicking doesn't change the core of the news
so your only points for replying are the already mentioned accusations
and about mobilizing, it means you will be sent somewhere, so if you're volunteer you're not automatically mobilized, you have to be equipped first, trained, medical checks, whatever you can imagine and when everything is done and organized, you will receive your mobilization to the frontline, so it's quite possible to mobilize a volunteer
god damn, i mean how often do you have to be disproven?
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In Europe, yes, but not in Russia. Although getting uniforms, passing a medical examination and then deciding on the direction of training is similar. That's exactly what I'm trying to convey about this difference. And you can automatically be mobilized when martial law is imposed with a declaration of war, in other cases, mobilization goes only to persons who need to be conscripted for military service. It is also possible to mobilize citizens from the reserve to conduct exercises on new equipment and confirm ownership of their military profession, and they will not be sent to the front line, unless full-fledged military operations are underway.
But the contractor will be sent to the Special Operation zone, but after a knowledge check. The untrained one is not really needed, there is no use from him there, it is still necessary to train.
http://www.consultant.ru/document/cons_doc_LAW_13454/3db4b61b43716fa53e04839fd89bb96efd297432/
Federal Law No. 31-FZ of 26.02.1997 (as amended on 14.07.2022) "On Mobilization Training and Mobilization in the Russian Federation"
Article 1. Basic concepts
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Mobilization training in the Russian Federation is understood as a set of measures carried out in peacetime to prepare in advance the economy of the Russian Federation, the economy of the subjects of the Russian Federation and the economy of municipalities, the training of state authorities, local self-government bodies and organizations, the training of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, other troops, military formations, bodies and created for wartime in accordance with the Federal Law "On Defense" of special formations (hereinafter - special formations) to ensure the protection of the state from armed attack and to meet the needs of the state and the needs of the population in wartime.
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Mobilization in the Russian Federation means a set of measures for the transfer of the economy of the Russian Federation, the economy of the subjects of the Russian Federation and the economy of municipalities, the transfer of state authorities, local governments and organizations to work in wartime conditions, the transfer of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, other troops, military formations, bodies and special formations to the organization and the composition of wartime.
Mobilization in the Russian Federation may be general or partial. The complex of measures carried out when declaring general or partial mobilization in the Russian Federation is determined in accordance with this Federal Law, regulatory legal acts of the President of the Russian Federation, the Government of the Russian Federation and other regulatory legal acts of the Russian Federation.
I immediately applied the law, otherwise not everyone has access.
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In Europe, yes, but not in Russia.
and that's the whole point, you're nitpicking from a russian view about some non-russian news article
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and that's the whole point, you're nitpicking from a russian view about some non-russian news article
But which is written about Russia. If it were about another country, I would not write clarifications.
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and you can't adapt your thinking to how they obviously meant it and take everything word for word, nitpicking about nuances, it's like making a fuss about a typo
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I won't argue, it's useless. Consider it as you want, it's your right.
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On Russia recruiting thousands of volunteers to replenish its ranks in Ukraine:
"about one month is allotted for training", it's still too much training for an armed crowd running to his death.
"The volunteers' contracts tend to be from four months to a year.", contracts tend to be shortened, but whatever.
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On Russia recruiting thousands of volunteers to replenish its ranks in Ukraine:
I will not be able to give you an answer, due to the fact that you will not accept it anyway and say that this is propaganda, and that I am a troll, you will not discover anything new for me anyway.
And so first look at the concepts of the words used and how it connects. Some of the errors of the article are indicated, there is no need to make mistakes again. And here it is necessary to look at the concepts even taking into account the translation from Russian, and not the comments of European users, unless they are those who were alive in the USSR and in 1990 he was 25 years old.
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Mariupol population count by Russia: 212,000
Mariupol population count by Ukraine: <100,000
By Russian democratic standards, you can expect ballot stuffing.
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Mariupol population count by Ukraine: <100,000
According to the links indicated in Wikipedia, these are the words of the former mayor of Mariupol. Which, I remind you, left the city starting from the first days. How he calculated the number of inhabitants being on the other side of the country remains a big question.
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The city is in ruins, type "mariupol destruction video" in google and watch some videos.
Mariupol is stricken with cholera and other diseases. Again, these are the words of Mayor Vadym Boichenko, he left Mariupol probably to avoid being kidnapped and tortured. With his smartphone, I trust him to be more accurate than any Russian official.
Mariupol population count by Russia: 212,000
Mariupol population count by Ukraine: <100,000
By Russian democratic standards, you can expect ballot stuffing.
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Again, these are the words of Mayor Vadym Boichenko, he left Mariupol probably to avoid being kidnapped and tortured.
I warn you right away that it's only about this.
You can trust anyone, but the most complete information could always be obtained only on the ground, or with direct communication. In other variants, it may not come very accurate. Here I can't draw any conclusions, since I'm not there, but what they say and show, it can be a lie or not fully convey.
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you're deflecting with your blah blah blah
no one cares about your nitpicking
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The special operation wasn't supposed to last that long. Maybe he is having a professional burnout. The Russian troll army needs a union.
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he's just more strictly working after the rule book
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/may/01/russia-trolling-ukraine-traction-tiktok
Linvill said the IRA’s strategy was not to cause people to believe something new, but rather to sow doubt and cause distrust in information sources that are usually seen as legitimate, in particular to deter domestic opposition to the Russian president. “If you don’t believe in anything, you’re not going to fight for anything and you are more likely to go along with Putin,” he said.
and i'm not very keen on discussing things on a nitpicking level with him
it's just annoying, because it adds nothing to the discussion
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The special operation will last as long as planned, but the time may change taking into account new factors. But the main thing will be "Minimal losses among Russian servicemen and civilians."
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The special operation will last as long as planned, but the time may change taking into account new factors
and when these new factors prolong the special war crimes operation, the special war crimes operation will last longer than planned, not as long as planned, it's just that simple.
But the main thing will be "Minimal losses among Russian servicemen and civilians."
this isn't the joke section
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And a little higher I gave about the clarifications.
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clarification about how you sow doubt and cause distrust in information sources that are usually seen as legitimate, yes
adding more spam, blah blah blah, reply to each and everyone, inflating the topic, nitpicking
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The fact that you believe in the information that your yellow press presents to you does not mean that it is the truth.
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that's a very mature post, using some unfounded accusation, which facts are you speaking of, some Telegram snippets?
and our yellow press possibly speaks more truth than russian government-funded media
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Well, if the source has incorrect information, then how can you trust him. It's visible, you can't hide it. And if you believe the wrong information, then you may not see the whole picture. It is very difficult to write what is happening in another country, not being in that country, but looking at the information provided. I did not even write about Al Jazeera, it is written in full, although without conclusions and additions, which are there, but completely.
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a mayor doesn't lead a city on his own, he probably has hundreds of employees, which can provide information to him, even if he's not in town
If Reuters provides this information, it's most likely reliable, they have a reputation to lose, but we talked about all that press thing earlier, independent media still seems strange to you
and i explained it earlier, if you don't understand things, it's not by default spam or incorrect information or whatever you're making up
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a mayor doesn't lead a city on his own, he probably has hundreds of employees, which can provide information to him, even if he's not in town
If Reuters provides this information, it's most likely reliable, they have a reputation to lose
I explained it earlier, if you don't understand things, it's not by default spam or incorrect information or whatever you're making up
This is good, but what about the military administration that is in place?
And the article was written on June 10, and already on August 1. But this does not mean that I question the article, it's just that 7 weeks have passed since that moment, and this is a long time.
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and just more distortion, moving further away from the topic with each of your replies
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Three Large American Multinationals Bought 17 Million Hectares of Ukrainian Agricultural Land (May 27, 2022 ANR News)
https://www.australiannationalreview.com/lifestyle/three-large-american-multinationals-bought-17-million-hectares-of-ukrainian-agricultural-land/
Just for information. Although it has been written for a long time.
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Ivan Levankov was killed on the first day of Russia’s full-scale war against Ukraine, as reports of Russian troops targeting civilians began to trickle out. And his death at the time was no secret—it was captured practically in real time by a Ukrainian woman named Karolina Perlifon who posted footage from the dramatic scene on Instagram.
“The Russians killed my mother!” Perlifon wrote in the viral post, alongside gut-wrenching footage of herself recounting how Russian forces had opened fire on her and her mother as they tried to flee the invading troops.
In the midst of the chaos, she wrote, two young Russian troops “who were barely holding their weapons” had rushed towards them, and one of them threw her to the ground to shield her from heavy artillery fire, yelling, “Don’t shoot… we’re your [guys].”
That soldier was immediately shot dead and collapsed on top of her, she said.
Russian propaganda went into overdrive with claims a Russian soldier had “heroically” been killed by Ukrainian “Nazis” as he shielded two civilians from artillery fire. The story was a win for the Kremlin’s narrative that Russian troops were on a humanitarian mission, and it spread like wildfire in Russian media.
But the identity of the soldier was always omitted, and he quickly became known only as “the unknown soldier” in pro-Kremlin accounts of that day.
And according to Perlifon, the secrecy surrounding his identity had only one goal: to keep the public from ever finding out he was killed by his own men for helping Ukrainians.
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as the trolls here always say, truth will find a way and will finally be revealed
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQ9jX7pGEjA
Operational Pause or Russian Impotence? [Mapped]
Let Ukraine take back all their rightful territories in the end.
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https://www.youtube.com/shorts/yM_HIwqKKDU
Another war crime added to the tally for the Russians.
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https://www.reuters.com/news/picture/russias-military-suffers-heavy-toll-from-idUSRTS9ZI7C
Be aware, the pictures include dead people. So be aware before opening. But I have a feeling some of the people who try to claim neutrality and "both sides generate propaganda" folk need to have some reality check of what is going on. And if unable to see it firsthand, maybe at least pictures will sway them into understanding how useless and devastating this conflict is.
The amount of equipment and lives lost not only on Ukraine's side but Russia's side as well is staggering. Occupants or no, those are still people who have died needlessly, families ruined who wont get back their relatives. It boggles the mind how some of the likes in this thread can still defend the invasion and what is being done. I have a feeling they have no idea of the actuality of what is going on in Ukraine.. Only the sick lies Kremlin is propagating.
Also I wonder what's happened to Q09066930 . Hasn't been online for 2 weeks. Hoping that he is ok
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folk need to have some reality check of what is going on
nep, nep! needssss sooome awwwesom reality. that why u bring GURRRO pics to this discussion.
nice job.
how useless and devastating this conflict is
even two ukraine presidents cant solve this amazing puzzle.
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And he crawls out of his cave like clockwork. Missed ya not
Also "GURRRO" also they are not really gruesome IMO pics here only for you to see what you are glorifying while sitting at your comfort at home while your countryman are being slaughtered at the hands of putins sick dreams of recreating soviet union.
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Also I wonder what's happened to Q09066930 . Hasn't been online for 2 weeks. Hoping that he is ok
As Q09066930 wrote in the original post "As a Russian-speaking Ukrainian currently living in Poland". If nothing has changed, then he should be fine. Maybe just busy
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Glory to Ukraine! We were and will be, but the rashists will disappear!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rashism
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These idiots just don't know when to shut up.
Medvedev Questions Neighbors’ Sovereignty in ‘Hacked’ Post
A post claiming the ex-Soviet nations of Georgia and Kazakhstan were “artificial” creations appeared Monday evening on former Russian President Dmitry Medvedev’s social media account — but was quickly deleted.
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Interesting, why you decide to edit your original post?
Also i saw such twit on his twitter.
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Interesting, why you decide to edit your original post?
isn't he allowed to do it? What's the reason for your spam?
After openly insulting users, you're now trying to hiddenly insult them?
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What did I do? I am in no way responsible for either Medvedev's posts or ngrazer's posts. I just made screenshots before they edited or deleted them
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yeah, funny how you made a screenshot of Medvedevs deleted VK post, showing a photoshopped Twitter post hiding insults about users there, not to mention you already insulted me twice and posted a link to dead bodies without disclaimer
you seem to be very lucky not been sent to "vacation" already
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Again if Medvedev think about ngrazer in such way, I'm not responsible for that.
Or do you want to say that the news that ngrazer posted is complete nonsense, and anyone could fake Medvedev's post on VK and pass it off as a sensation?
you already insulted me twice
You may not notice, but you also insulted me several times.
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that's stupid reasoning, because Medvedev obviously don't know who ngrazer is, otherwise i'm sure he would have participated here, and the things he said on VK are most likey true, because he has a history in stirring up bullshit and i'm sure that hundreds of screenshots are existing
but nice try, playing by the troll rule book for beginners
You may not notice, but you also insulted me several times.
troll isn't an insult, idiot is
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Nah, this assclown just had nothing to say about an obviously nazi post from Medvedev so he edited the webpage in browser.
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Wow, you know how to edit webpage in browser. Cheers.
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Even in the Ukrainian propaganda TV they admit that on the front line (the city Bakhmut) people support the Russian army. Starting at 6:25 in the video, a Ukrainian soldier says that the locals are giving up the positions of the Ukrainian army so that the Russian army can strike at those ukrainian positions. Locals are also waiting for the arrival of the Russian army. Also speaking about local residents, Ukrainian soldiers call them collaborators and untermenschs.
The reporter also in a conversation with local residents (starting at 7:45 in the video) asks if they are going to leave the city, and if they are afraid of the Russian army. To which he receives the answer that they are not going to leave the city. And there is no reason to be afraid of the Russian army. Nobody believes in Ukrainian fairy tales about child rape and so on.
So who is the occupier in this case?
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The reporter also in a conversation with local residents (starting at 7:45 in the video) asks if they are going to leave the city, and if they are afraid of the Russian army. To which he receives the answer that they are not going to leave the city.
To which he receives the answer that 2/3 of the people already left. And the remaining 1/3 are not leaving because it's their home. And this is war. They prevailed in World War II, and they will prevail now.
So who is the occupier in this case?
The Russians.
30 years ago the Russians had an excuse it wasn't their fault, they were forced by the communist dictatorship. And before that it was the Russian Tzar's dictatorship.
But now they have no excuse. Now it's purely Russian occupiers trying to take over their neighbour. Just because their neighbour owns something, and Russians want it. No other reason whatsoever.
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30 years ago the Russians had an excuse it wasn't their fault, they were forced by the communist dictatorship. And before that it was the Russian Tzar's dictatorship.
Seems like you completely don't know neither Ukrainian history, nor Russian. Also you completely don't understan reasons of civil war in Ukraine.
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nice referral link
not to mention, that the yt translator is doing a bad job and so it's not appropiate for this thread, according to MSKOTOR
Nobody believes in Ukrainian fairy tales about child rape and so on.
that is an outrageous statement, suggesting there were no rapes and other war crimes at all and is in the scope of denying the holocaust
and don't talk about nobody, when you're in fact talking about yourself and your fellow troll bots
and the mandatory proof:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_violence_in_the_2022_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine
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nice referral link
Whar are you talking about? What referal link? It's just link on video on youtube.
You can open your youtube in browser. Find video "Оборона Бахмута: військові, волонтери та місцеві про житття в прифронтовому місті" from the channel "Телебачення Торонто". And try to post link here. Since the name of the channel is in Cyrillic, when copying links, it is replaced by such characters
that is an outrageous statement, suggesting there were no rapes and other war crimes at all and is in the scope of denying the holocaust
That's the direct speach from citiziens there. So I suppose your speach is adressed to them.
and the mandatory proof:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_violence_in_the_2022_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine
What is written there
Denisova was fired from her position in the end of May, 2022. She later admitted to making "“exaggerated” reports of sexual crimes by Russian soldiers in order to get Ukraine more weaponry.[31]
Even Ukrainian propagandists admitted that this was propaganda. And you still believe it.
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Whar are you talking about? What referal link? It's just link on video on youtube.
if i click the link, my link doesn't look like this %D2 whatever
That's the direct speach from citiziens there. So I suppose your speach is adressed to them.
i'm not stupid, it is also your stance, seen in your words about Denisova, trying to belittle the facts and sowing doubt, it's always the same approach you trolls are taking
and we discussed Denisova earlier:
https://www.steamgifts.com/go/comment/HsAMDzW
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I'll repeat once again. The name of the channel is Cyrillic. On youtube page I also see it like
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sByMpYLsnOc&ab_channel=ТелебаченняТоронтоBut if you copy and post it here Cyrillic characters changed to that thing
and we discussed Denisova earlier:
https://www.steamgifts.com/go/comment/HsAMDzW
So what? There is still no confirmation of any crime.
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all that cyrillic mumbo jumbo isn't necassary to post the link, so i assume it's an referral link
So what? There is still no confirmation of any crime.
don't doubt, there will be
otherwise the special war crimes operation would have miserably failed
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don't doubt, there will be
Do you know what's going on with evidence of Saddam's weapons of mass destruction in Iraq? So far, no evidence has been provided? Even after USA defeated him?
Do you think the evidence of rape by the Russian army will be dealt with faster?
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BuT wHaT aBoUt USA?
Common argument Ruscists tend to use when they are cornered.Ah, classics.
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first you talked about confirmation, then it's just evidence, playing by the troll book for beginners
there's already enough evidence of war crimes and something which is still valid:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/may/01/russia-trolling-ukraine-traction-tiktok
Linvill said the IRA’s strategy was not to cause people to believe something new, but rather to sow doubt and cause distrust in information sources that are usually seen as legitimate, in particular to deter domestic opposition to the Russian president. “If you don’t believe in anything, you’re not going to fight for anything and you are more likely to go along with Putin,” he said.
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You are located at Dnipropetrovsk province in Ukraine (according to what is stated at your steam profile) - but I'm surprised of WHAT are you stating here. You sounds so like native russian. Insulting someone here on SG is not the best idea, but looks like you are one of those rare cases of russophilia collaborationist (simply saying, traitors)
Нам не страшны московские вши, как украинские гниды
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Нам не страшны московские вши, как украинские гниды
It is very interesting that you quoted Petliura, that is the man who arranged the massacres of Jews in 1918-1920 in Ukraine. I think people should understand who I betrayed as you put it.
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Definitely, people you are referring, will understand who is who for sure.
Thanks for link to wikipedia article about Petliura - refreshed my knowledge a bit.
As for that second article, sorry, I'm not so strong at Hebrew - do you have the English version of that?
Oh, yea. Seizing the opportunity, may I ask you, why russophilia guys love to manipulate and say lie so much?
For example, stressing that "Petliura is the man who arranged the massacres of Jews in 1918-1920 in Ukraine" while the source YOU are referring says such statement is controversial.
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As for that second article, sorry, I'm not so strong at Hebrew - do you have the English version of that?
You can easily translate it in Google Chrome browser.
Here is more literature you can read about it
Link1
Link2
Link3
For example, stressing that "Petliura is the man who arranged the massacres of Jews in 1918-1920 in Ukraine" while the source YOU are referring says such statement is controversial.
Maybe that's because anyone could edit page on Wikipedia? In Ukraine there are people who wants to whitewash this person, same as Stepan Bandera and Adolf Hitler.
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yawn, again the Wiki argument, working a narrative which was true 20 years ago, playing by the troll rule book for beginners
whitewashing Hitler, i think you topped your stirring up of BS now
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Maybe that's because anyone could edit page on Wikipedia?
I see... I see... So we need to demand the Wikipedia editors to correct the article you used as a source - and put there your true version.
Truth must prevail.
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Wiki is shitty source, "anyone" can edit it and create new articles. We know, what is most accurate source - every strange russian blog with even more stranger author... :-D
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Он просто руссобот, как и куча других. Не верю, что такая быдлота может жить на нашей земле, еще и топить за орков, видя своими глазами, что эти ублюдки делают
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So what? The Ukrainian army also gets targets from the population in areas occupied by Russia. So yes, by your own logic Russia is the occupier.
And frankly, besides this being an idiotic way to question the occupation, there were collaborators in pretty much every single war humanity ever fought. Just to round up how worthless and irrelevant your argumentation is. As always.
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Russia's Shoigu says 6 Ukrainian HIMARS systems destroyed -Interfax
Russia regularly claims it has hit HIMARS, but has yet to show proof. -Reuters
For all the publicity, Lockheed Martin (the manufacturer of HIMARS) should send Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu a Snack Packs. https://lockheedmartinstore.com/individually-shipped-gifts/
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"It's only good to rest in Italy, it's hell here for work." How Ukrainian refugees are settling in Italy
https://strana.news/news/401615-kak-ukrainskie-bezhentsy-ustraivajutsja-v-italii-i-kak-tam-s-rabotoj.html
The article is for some reason in Russian, and not in Ukrainian. Although the publication is Ukrainian.
Immediately answers why this article is here.
- Edition is Ukrainian and has nothing to do with Russia.
- This is about refugees who have left the country.
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