It's actually sad to see how this gets handled in an absolute unprofessional manner.
The discussion showed support from all over the world, and was actually useful to bring such an important topic to people that are younger, maybe not really aware how hard the situation for Ukraine is, after russia raided them like thugs and that this can harm other countries too!
Not only for me but as I recognised for a lot of people, steamgifts is their day to day site and the discussion was burning hot for more than a year.
Obvious there where some "bots" but also some really deranged and indoctrinated people.
We know you are and its not a secret, and I feel very sad for you. I can't imagine listening to mind boggling shit every day.
So people had their safe zone and yes of course there where also some fights, but when it gets heated up, there might be fire. In my case, yes I went overboard and went down to a personal level.
It's sometimes so hard to believe that there are really humans that behave like this, spreading lies, support pure evil like the hamas for example, that I explode almost. This mocking and being openly racist and to see that a Mod even protects the thread and bans users for reasons that are unreal when you think about what this person has done. Even to the point that the owner just decided to block - ban - censor "sensitive topics"
Yeah my ass, that's so lame.
There is a big difference between the Ukraine awareness Thread and the fully packed with lies, propaganda, with openly anti semitic and racist statements and links filled Palestine thread.
And now look at this guy, he will vanish like crazzzeeey
Sad to see that steamgifts lost our Ukrainians friends that had their home here, to feel that they are not alone
Great work MsKotor, inb4 banned
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So your are saying everything on my thread was a lie? indirectly you are accusing media outlets like Al-jazeera, TRT world, Sky news, Channel 4, Middle east eye, Fox news and History channel site for spreading fake information. Everything was taken from authentic source it wasn't my personal observation or my personal data. Things could have been better if people from ukraine thread never started coming over and asking stupid racist questions. When i opened my thread i never said anything on ukraine thread so stop blaming me. I see no difference in Ukraine and Palestine thread. Stop your double standard. Its fine to call all the russians(combatent, non-combatent)terrorist but its not fine to call israel or IDF terrorist even if they bomb Mosques, Churches and kill around 1500 babies in carpet bombing. If you dont agree with something that does not mean its fake or fabricated.
I also got blacklisted by 450+ users just for supporting Palestinian people. Nothing can stop me from supporting my Palestinian brothers.
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I also got blacklisted by 450+ users just for supporting Palestinian people.
Maybe take a hint and realize WHY you were in the wrong and this rule got brought up. Stop spamming this thread god damn it.
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You didnt answer the question all those media outlets are lying? dont teach me english
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I also got blacklisted by 450+ users just for supporting Palestinian people.
There's a difference between supporting a group of people, and being an insufferable asshole that constantly writes dumb shit and doesn't listen to any advice. Maybe take a look in the mirror for once, instead of trying to make everything about supporting this or that.
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So your are saying everything on my thread was a lie?
probably
indirectly you are accusing media outlets like Al-jazeera, TRT world, Sky news, Channel 4, Middle east eye, Fox news and History channel site for spreading fake information.
At least TRT World is spreading Fake News
https://www.steamgifts.com/go/comment/FjjJ4bn
https://www.steamgifts.com/go/comment/rxAt95M
Al Jazeera has been accused of pushing "Qatari propaganda" by many countries and organizations, including those in the Arab world,[7][8][9]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Jazeera
"authentic"
Things could have been better if people from ukraine thread never started coming over
Because people proficient in debunking lies wouldn't have debunked you several times?
When i opened my thread i never said anything on ukraine thread so stop blaming me.
no, of course you didn't, you just posted several off-topic comments there.
I see no difference in Ukraine and Palestine thread.
One was created even before the war, where the mentioned nation was attacked later, the other was created after a terrorist organization within this nation borders attacked another nation, you must be blind to not see the difference.
Its fine to call all the russians(combatent, non-combatent)terrorist but its not fine to call israel or IDF terrorist
You were already told by others, that several nations acknowledged russia as terrorist state, but none did for Israel. Yet you're spamming the same accusations over and over again like a trained parrot.
https://www.steamgifts.com/go/comment/m31drNC
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It would have been easier to ban the hostile and divisive people for some time, or maybe perma?
I missed all this backlash so I really don't know how bad was that thread and despite I wasnt following the Russia - Ukraine war thread I feel It was a way for people to spread their concerns and give them some words of encouragement.
This feels like a Mully's prophecy now.
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This thread seems pretty emblematic of some moderation shortcomings here. I'm not bashing. I appreciate mods' work and I bet it's not easy. However, even inside this very thread which is the hottest topic right now and involves both cg and many mods, the user that instigated the whole thing still maintains their original problematic thread and purpose within here. This gives a sense that in spite of having the tools to deal with the problem the most that can be expected is a weak and ineffective slap on the wrist (assuming a ticket is even handled in a timely manner and not after the whole place burned down). I mean the problematic thread has been closed ffs - how many warnings does a user get before you do a consequence?
Is it because you're going so by-the-book that you wanna make sure you're exhausting every type of slap on the wrist in your arsenal before really deterring users who for most of us are clearly- clearly- just trolling and stressing the system in order to slip thru the seams?
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Well. The Awareness threads are now condensed onto this thread. It is admittedly a bit more efficient having them all in one place now.
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You'd have to ask to authors how/why they named them as such lol.
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My favourite was the one being proud of not being a hypocrite, but honest. In what? Making a shitty, backhanded personal attack that is fine, because the other person is trash.
Goes well with the "please don't get me wrong, I do hate jews" one.
We reached some moral Mariana Trench, where people are proud about how much trash - genuine, true trash nevertheless! - they are?
Like a South Park episode really
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Thanks for all of the feedback. I'm closing this discussion because there will be a new announcement tomorrow with revisions.
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Hi SG,
We're adding a couple of new guidelines to the site due to recent concerns within the community. This change adds the following to the list of content that is not allowed.
Terrorism. Supporting terrorist groups, terrorist acts, or celebrating attacks by terrorist organizations.
Sensitive subjects or events. Content regarding sensitive subjects (e.g. politics, religion, sexuality) or sensitive events with significant social, cultural, or political impact (e.g. public health emergencies, terrorism and related activities, conflict, or mass acts of violence) that we believe are facilitating a hostile and divisive environment throughout our community. At the moment we will be closing discussions pertaining to...Israel-Hamas warRussia-Ukraine warRegarding the first point, if we interpret your content as supporting a recognized terrorist organization then it will be removed or the discussion will be closed.
As for sensitive subjects or events, we'll look at those on a case-by-case basis to see how they're currently being handled by users in the community. Are conversations about a certain subject or event frequently regressing into hostility between the participants? Is the content the source of an unusual amount of conflict throughout the site? If we identify a sensitive subject or event that is causing such a problem, we will first try to use our existing guidelines to keep the conversation civil. In exceptional cases where this proves to be ineffective or infeasible, we will consider adding the subject to the list above. We will moderate items on the list by closing existing discussions along with new ones that attempt to bring the subject back into the spotlight. We may also need to remove comments if a user is trying to shift the focus of an existing discussion to these subjects.
We want SG to continue being a welcoming place to both new and existing users and I think the new additions above are important in helping us maintain that atmosphere.
Edit: The sensitive subjects or events guideline mentioned above has been revised based on community feedback. Please read more about the changes.
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