So uh, Prigozhin for some reason continues debunking Kremlin's lies.
(via deepl)
This is just a fragment from 'first part' of his big interview to his own media. That 'first part' is already 30+ minutes long, so probably there'll be more interesting things to come.
Ed. With eng subs
Also, as a bonus:
Objective of Ukraine’s demilitarization mostly accomplished — Kremlin
"Ukraine is using fewer and fewer of its weapons. And it is using more and more weapons provided by Western countries," Peskov said
I had no idea 'demilitarization' means upgrading your old soviet-era weapons to modern NATO standards.
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i hope they arent so stupid to blow up the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant but according to the SBU is seems like they already mined it
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🤔Russia coup d'Etat?
NOELREPORTS 🇪🇺 🇺🇦 on Twitter: "The start of a coup in Russia? "The evil that the military leadership of the country bears must be stopped. I ask you not to resist anyone. Everyone who tries will be destroyed. Justice in the troops will be restored, and after that, justice in all of Russia," Prigozhin says." / Twitter
https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1672312948583288832
Dmitri on Twitter: "Full message of Prigozhi "declaring war on the Russian Ministry of Defence: "PMC Wagner Commanders’ Council made a decision: the evil brought by the military leadership of the country must be stopped. They neglect the lives of soldiers. They forgot the word “justice”, and we… " / Twitter
https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1672314259907158028
The Spectator Index on Twitter: "BREAKING: Wagner Group chief publishes video in which he claims to show the aftermath of a Russian military rocket attack on a Wagner camp. https://t.co/2Sv3J9ecM8" / Twitter
https://twitter.com/spectatorindex/status/1672324405815541772
Faytuks News Δ on Twitter: "Multiple sources are claiming that an emergency statement is being prepared by Russia's Ministry of Defence. " / Twitter
https://twitter.com/Faytuks/status/1672323498881032193
I can't say that the fact check has been met.
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CNN
Wagner chief accuses Russian military leadership of killing "huge amount" of his fighters in strike on camp
https://edition.cnn.com/europe/live-news/russia-ukraine-war-news-06-23-23/h_8ca7869e3cd32d5f9f89d96fb2858f4b
Wagner chief accuses Russia’s military of attack and says ‘evil’ leadership must be stopped | Russia | The Guardian
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jun/23/wagner-chief-accuses-russias-military-of-attack-and-says-evil-leadership-must-be-stopped
Is this the only major news report yet?
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[🇷🇺media]
Wagner chief spreads misinformation — MOD
www.rt.com/russia/578544-mod-wagner-statement
RT on Twitter: "All messages and footage distributed on behalf of Wagner’s Prigozhin are an informational provocation — Russian MoD Read more: " / Twitter
https://twitter.com/RT_com/status/1672324470755807232
Минобороны опровергло слухи о нанесении удара по лагерям ЧВК "Вагнер" - KP.RU
www.kp.ru/online/news/5330369/
ФСБ возбудила дело о призыве к вооруженному мятежу после заявлений Пригожина – Коммерсантъ
(FSB opens case on calling for armed insurrection after statements by Prigozhin - Kommersant)
www.kommersant.ru/doc/6067249
🙄In any case, all know for sure is that the Russian government is trying to cover it up.
Perhaps these tweets will disappear after this and be replaced in a few hours by what Tass or kommersant says.
Have seen this happen several times before.💩
memo:Russia media guide - BBC News
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-17840134
Those who have the time and inclination can find out from these what kind of nonsense message games are being played.
PS I'm off to sleep for 3 hours and run my morning errands.... If you have any information, please put it up. I hope it will be a good change for Ukraine.
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It's popcorn time!
Russia is screwed on all sides, no doubt that Putler is a great strategist! 🤣🤣🤣
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Dmitri Alperovitch on Twitter: "FSB calls on Wagner to ignore Prigozhin’s criminal orders and to assist in his apprehension. Multiple generals making videos calling on them to do the same Armored vehicles are observed on the streets of Moscow / Twitter
https://twitter.com/DAlperovitch/status/1672363000764719106
😴<I only got to take a 2 hour nap too!😂 🛸🛸🛸🌕📡ヽ(Θ´; )ノ≡ヽ( ;`Θ)ノ📞 🌏<sdfghjkl
I'm off to run morning errands for an hour now, but I'm relieved to see that the live feed seems to be actively covering the case.
Russia-Ukraine war live: Russia investigates ‘mutiny’ as Wagner chief says ‘evil’ military leaders must be stopped | Ukraine | The Guardian
https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2023/jun/23/russia-ukraine-war-live-russia-investigates-mutiny-as-wagner-chief-says-evil-military-leaders-must-be-stopped
It seems that the 2023 Revolution is happening in Russia. ......( 「'Θ')🔭 🌏
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMtjavd5Sug
Update from Ukraine | Wagner started the military coup in Ruzzia | Prygozhyn is going to Moscow
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ttps://youtu.be/ZMtjavd5Sug
Update from Ukraine | Wagner started the military coup in Ruzzia | Prygozhyn is going to Moscow - YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMtjavd5Sug
URL shortening. When posting links, make sure you are not using URL shorteners as they obscure the destination of links and make it difficult for users to know what they are clicking.
Avoid forwarded URLs.
But I can understand why you would try to attach something that might be easy to understand since it happened just a few minutes ago.🍵☕
🙄Oh, I wish the Youtuber had handled the Kappa language along the way....
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URL shorteners [...] obscure the destination of links and make it difficult for users to know what they are clicking.
"youtu.be" are the official "share" links by Youtube. These should be fine because they always lead to Youtube.
However ESGST can't embed the shortened links, so using the destination ("youtube.com") is actually better.
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Guidelines
Since I thought you probably did not know this, I have clarified it this time by giving a link to the Guideline without omitting the back and forth.
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There was a possibility of anger from the moderators monitoring the discussion.
It has already been fixed, so you can participate without worry.
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NetBlocks on Twitter: "⚠️ Confirmed: Metrics show that the Google News aggregator platform has become unavailable for many users in #Russia; the incident comes amid heightened tensions between the Wagner paramilitary group and Moscow " / Twitter
https://twitter.com/netblocks/status/1672382720989593601
✂🧵😅
The same would also be true for those who wish to keep in touch...
Igor Sushko on Twitter: "Russia: "The Ministry of Defence has lost control over a number of units and formations of the Southern Military District, it will not be possible to organize the defense by the RosGvradia and the FSB. The local leaders are extremely careful in their statements." That's Rostov. " / Twitter
https://twitter.com/igorsushko/status/1672394042158780416
There is speculation that most of the military forces in southern Russia have followed Wagner, and they seem to be moving on without any reports of major battles or clashes.🤔
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Aric Toler on Twitter: "Another video of the MoD building. (Deleted my previous tweet as it's not confirmed who is operating all these tanks. Locals are pretty terrified of them, though) " / Twitter
https://twitter.com/AricToler/status/1672426640599654404
( 「'Θ')🔎Central Rostov?
It looks like the tanks are pointing their guns at the Russian Defense Ministry building.
(Is it a practice for the show since it is still a rural building😁)
How many hours will it take to get to Moscow?
This is how the cities, towns, and villages will be conquered in a short period of time and will be on their way to Moscow.(perhaps)
It may not take long for things to change if you count the number of cities along the way in Moscow and consider that each one takes an hour.
Visegrád 24 on Twitter: "BREAKING: A plane belonging to the Lukashenko family took off from Belarus a few hours ago and is now over Turkey. It’s time to make the Russian Army leave Belarus and for Belarus to join the family of democratic European states. " / Twitter
https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1672423333550333954
🇧🇾→ESCAPE🛫→🇹🇷
🙄Did our Russian friends begin to surrender first?
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OSINTtechnical on Twitter: "Wagner head Prigozhin has popped up in Rostov, with both Colonel General Yunus-Bek, Deputy Minister of Defense, and Lt. Gen. Vladimir Alekseyev, deputy chief of Russian military intelligence. / Twitter
https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/1672466220988129281
🙄…Since the Russians were unable to secure logistics in the vicinity of Ukraine, Rostov was used as a supply base for the invasion of Ukraine, with Rostov as the main axis.
(I'll be flying a drone or whatever from near the Ukrainian border😊🛸They were gathered in these positions as a countermeasure against these.)
Today, that city seems to have been taken over by Wagner, who has taken control of all the troops and supplies in the vicinity.
If this state of affairs lasts even a day longer, the Russian gov front line will continue to lose, not the war against Ukraine, with no supply and no cover.
The demands would be a death sentence for the Putin government, which is virtually certain to receive a visit to Moscow.
It is suspected that they have acquired the forces that could bring Moscow down.
Now, let's talk about the Russian gov Theater.🕌🍮🥄😋🌭
(I always doubt everything👀)
Let's take a break, relax and wait.☕🍵
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god damn, Prighozin goes full in now! its not a coup, its the justice parade and he wants to hang shoigu on the red square!
he is going with his wagnerites, 25k, to Moscow
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One Russian security source told Reuters Wagner fighters had also taken control of military facilities in the city of Voronezh, which is about 500 km (310 miles) south of Moscow. Reuters could not independently confirm that assertion or many of the details provided by Prigozhin.
In a televised address Saturday morning, Putin called for unity among forces and appealed to those who he said had been deceived, asking them to cease their criminal actions.
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He also described the situation in Rostov-on-Don, a city in southwestern Russia near Ukraine, as difficult but said he would seek to stabilize the situation there.
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Nowadays, that may be true. (VPN knowledge)
I remember when the first Russian internet censorship happened, I wrote out a lot of stuff here.
[1 year ago ...]
Ukraine Awareness Thread 💙💛 - Searching 'VPN'
I remember with deep emotion the Russian government's deliberate unrestricted contribution of rubles and privatization of a privately owned company as a state-owned enterprise soon after it began censoring the company.
Also, the Russian government stopped displaying various services.
I remember how concerned I was that freedom of speech, freedom of expression, and freedom of thought were not being guaranteed without violence.
The current situation is also a strong possibility that this will be the end of the war, but if it continues, the Russian government has no choice but to take emergency measures, so I am watching the information with surprise, curiosity, and a bit of nervousness, and without much sleep.
Such a tragedy that happened in Russia could happen in other countries as well. Therefore, we must continue to be vigilant against governments and upper echelons that force their citizens away from their own politics. Otherwise, even if they defect to a third country, the same hell may repeat itself.
As you and I know, the earth is round.( 「'Θ')へ🎱 🌕 🌏 🌞
[anecdote]
As the Americans learned so painfully in Earth's final century, free flow of information is the only safeguard against tyranny. The once-chained people whose leaders at last lose their grip on information flow will soon burst with freedom and vitality, but the free nation gradually constricting its grip on public discourse has begun its rapid slide into despotism. Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master.
Commissioner Pravin Lal
U.N. Declaration of Rights
Sometimes I am reminded of a phrase from an old game of Earth.
And this would be one of the truths.
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Seems like this thread won't be bothered by bots for some time now :D
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🤣 [Video on Twitter] - Briefly about the current state of affairs in Russia: Russian tank got stuck in the entrance to the circus.
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Ukraine Front Lines on Twitter: "Russian military say that if the Wagner PMC continues its movement, the Russian Armed Forces will blow up three bridges across the Oka River to protect Moscow. #RussiaIsCollapsing " / Twitter
https://twitter.com/EuromaidanPR/status/1672539289236787201
Anton Gerashchenko on Twitter: "Russian media report that the bridge in the south of Moscow region over the Oka River is blocked. The strategic crossing was closed with dump trucks full of sand and sprinklers filled with water. " / Twitter
https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1672526119617150979
Liveuamap on Twitter: "PMC Wagner troops reportedly entered Buturlinovka of Voronezh region " / Twitter
https://twitter.com/Liveuamap/status/1672535646357843968
OSINTdefender on Twitter: "A Russian Air Force Ka-52 “Alligator” Attack Helicopter is now known to be Responsible for Bombing the Oil Refinery and Depot in the City of Voronezh indicating that this was likely done to prevent its Capture by Wagner PMC Forces which are Advancing on the City from the South. " / Twitter
https://twitter.com/sentdefender/status/1672544025373466625
(((Tendar))) on Twitter: "More footage of the bombing of Voronezh oil depot. The Russian regime army eventually terrorizes its last victim: The Russian population. I have been warning that this will end exactly this way. The final terror. #Russia #coup #Voronezh " / Twitter
https://twitter.com/Tendar/status/1672545336517349379
MilitaryLand.net on Twitter: "🎥Russian Ka-52 attacking ground targets in the vicinity of the fuel depot in Voronezh. #Russia " / Twitter
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1672545594332655616
🙄
[Personal Nonsense]
It seems to me that the Putin government destroyed it in response to Wagner, but it could also be said that supply at Rostov became impossible, and the alternative supply site at Rostov was also destroyed by the Putin government in the confusion.🥄🥄🪔😖🍮🥄🥄
Even if this case is ended early, it seems that the Putin government is no longer thinking about the war with Ukraine.
(There is no doubt that the confusion on the ground is extreme.😖)
The flow of events is that even if Prigogine is decapitated by Putin, the members and the Wagner faction of the Russian army are still holding Rostov.
If that should happen, they can lose their ability to continue the war against Ukraine by destroying logistics materials.
It is believed that the Rostov defense network is being built as such an insurance policy.
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NEXTA on Twitter: "⚡️ "Lukashenka's press service said that at the moment there is a draft of an acceptable option for resolving the situation with the "Wagner" PMC, with security guarantees for its fighters" - RIA" / Twitter
https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1672655403920785408
🌝🤡
At what point did they drop Lukashenko in the middle of the neighboring country like an errand boy in the middle of the rebel army?
This must be Russian state broadcasting nonsense....
Russia: Prigozhin tells mercenaries to turn back from Moscow advance to 'avoid bloodshed' - BBC News
https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-europe-66006142
🤔❓BBC?
Tracing sources, it appears that the AP and RIA are covering the topic of ceasefire.
However, it appears to be a topic on which Wagner have not been able to provide comment information.
Given his background and actions, it would not surprise me if he was waiting for the "fake ceasefire" to be lifted.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrXcGawJGt0
Putin strategically redeployed to Saint Petersburg :P
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Prigozhin confirmed he reconsidered going all the way to Moscow after he received 'guarantees' to his group and troops.
We stopped 200km away from Moscow and during our march we had not spilled a single drop of our soldiers' blood. Now the moment has come when blood may be spilled, so... Understanding the responsibility of possible Russian blood spill, we turn our columns around and we're going back to the field camps according to the plan.
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BBC, Associated Press, NEXTA and RIA 🙄 📝
There was similar information, but no information from the "Prigozhin " side seems to have been confirmed.
Also, many tweets seem to say that the Belarusian presidential office has been informed of the negotiations, but I cannot find any mention of them on the Belarusian side.
Official website | Official Internet Portal of the President of the Republic of Belarus
https://president.gov.by/en
I checked only the English page.
Is it on in other languages?
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I, for one, am relieved that teenage boys, conscripts from the neighboring barracks, are alive and well. And there will be no Wagner anymore, I'm pretty sure they'll be disbanded, so Russian army did suffer a blow. And it became perfectly clear that there's no such a thing as universal support of war and this government in Russia. All in all, not a bad day.
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looks like a misinformation scam to sniff out all those who disagree
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It's an indescribable place.🤔
Some countries sometimes get delayed press releases, so for now, it's a gray area.
However, just from the confirmed facts, it seems that there were some reports that the front line in Ukraine was able to gain the upper hand due to the confusion of the Russian army this time around.
OSINT (Uri) 🇺🇦 on Twitter: "The Armed Forces of Ukraine launched a large-scale counteroffensive. - Hanna Maliar (Ministry of Defense of Ukraine) "The eastern group of troops launched an offensive in several directions at the same time today. In the direction of Orikhovo-Vasylivka, Bakhmut, Bohdanivka,… " / Twitter
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1672650245187026949
The high-profile nature of the Russian insurgency.
If that gives Ukraine an advantage, it will not be a problem.🤫
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I suspect this all was just a scripted theater with more than one director. Or if that Wagner fellow was the only director he'd better avoid windows in high buildings and think carefully who can offer him a cup of tea in the future..
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It's hard to know what's real and what's not about this whole conflict but if it is true, that's honorable...
Where does it end though? How does it end? It's been over a year of a pointless war with no goal and no end in sight. How do you even broker a "peace treaty" in a war of publicity and grandstanding?
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Может быть ты не будешь рассуждать как лучше поступить двум странам которые когда-то были вместе в составе СССР? Даа, кончено - лучше продолжать накачивать Украину оружием, деньгами и наёмниками продолжая кровопролитие и разрушение, чем просто не вмешиваться в разборки двух бывших союзных республик, учитывая что восточная часть страны 404 это исключительно русскоговорящие. Нормально что из страны 404 - 30 лет делают анти-Россию? Я тебе так скажу, не лезь не в своё дело. Заглатываете тотальный контроль СШП по всей планете? Вот и заглатывайте, а в разборки внутри бывших союзных республик не лезьте! Конечно, лучше накачивать продолжать конфликт подливая масло в огонь - тупому западному обывателю виднее!
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Санкции что-то плохо душат экономику в России, очень плохо, вот цена на продукты питания упала https://rosstat.gov.ru/storage/mediabank/97_21-06-2023.html (in Russian, this is statistics, it does not mean that this is propaganda, it's just taken and added up the prices and got the result. The Federal State Statistics Service (Rosstat) is a federal executive authority that performs the functions of generating official statistical information on social, economic, demographic, environmental and other social processes in the Russian Federation, as well as in the manner and cases established by the legislation of the Russian Federation on control in the field of official statistical accounting.), стали дешевле (хотя часть подорожало, но опять на эти доли процентов), видимо санкции работают. Талантливые в виде Чулпан Хаматовой, которая крутится как флюгер на ветру. Ну ну. https://ura.news/articles/1036286281 список их. То, что свалила Собчак, так это праздник, а не трагедия. Если было предположение о трагедии, то получилась комедия. Африка, ОАЭ, да и другие страны и континенты. Си Цзиньпин после переизбрания первый международный визит совершил в Россию. Или всё это показатель того, что ни кто не хочет иметь дела? БРИКС https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BRICS , в который поступили ещё предложения о входе, тоже на задворках? More about BRICS http://infobrics.org/ http://brics2022.mfa.gov.cn/eng/ https://brics2021.gov.in/about-brics
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FSB found his Money in the HQ in St.Petersburg, probably^^
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Rusky telling "respect" to another rusky who has a hitler quote in his steam profile description is peak rusky mental gymnastics 🤣🤣🤣
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firstly, the Ministry of Communications: You can quote Hitler, but only for educational purposes.
secondly, does the quote carry Propaganda and public display of Nazi paraphernalia or symbols, or public display of paraphernalia, symbols or slogans of extremist organizations?
thirdly, forbid Russians to support Russians against a bunch of backward idiots who do not understand politics and skipped 2014 :)))
fourthly, do you want to compete in the knowledge of politics? Do you want to talk to me in private, not in public? well, risk your health
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So rusky quoting Hitler is normal in ruSSia, will note that, little nazi :)
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The rusky translators must be working like any other shit ruSSia produces, try again hitler lover
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закрой уже ебальник свой, слился чмошник еще вякает что-то.
hecaxxx тебе по факту расписал, а ты что-то там лаешь понимая, что не вывозишь дисскуссию при диалоге с нормальными людьми. Мне что-то там постоянно гафкал, пока я с другими разбирался, но хорошо я не читал высер этого долбаёба.
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And what do we actually have:
Most likely, there will be positive moments, the storm that has risen, as a result, will affect the army and all structures, most likely in a positive way, maybe even someone will be removed from the army and not only (as I wanted in PMC), Prigozhin is most likely animators they will sit, perhaps there will be an option to join Wagner again, a coup d'état and an insurrection, I hope it has not succeeded, although it has not yet ended! Maybe I'm getting ahead of myself, but there are not many options. How it was possible to release all the positive rating and merits of PMC Wagner into the pipe and at one moment, and become a traitor, it's just not in my head! God is with us! Victory will be ours.
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Very positive outcomes, like all of these positively unalived vehicles with their crew:
3 Ми-8мтпр
1 Ми-8
1 Ка-52
1 Ми-35
1 Ил-18(22) ВЗПУ
Ah, Vassay, seems like the rusky bots won't be out of this thread forever, unfortunately :((
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For you, everyone automatically becomes bots if they have an alternative point of view from yours? I am glad that you were pleased by these losses of our comrades during the mutiny on June 23rd. I hope you will also rejoice when your compatriots die!
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Just counting the positive moments you mentioned above ;)
It's 24-th btw, are you sanctioned out of calendars too? 🤣🤣
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He seems to live the "BuT, BaCk iN tHe uSSr!!!" zone, completely delusional 🤣
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It's always like this. Something big and bad for russia happens, and there come the bots, trying to flood the discussion. Some get insta-baned, others can even hold on for aa while. But in the end they have to keep living in russia, so the punishment fits the crime :D
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Today's rebellion in Russia - The ukrainian military is a great example that it turns out that it is POSSIBLE to deploy your tanks and troops and move them to Kiev, against Zaluzhny, Zelensky, Budanov and all Ukrainian oligarchs and officials who forcibly drive Ukrainians into a meat grinder against Russia. Whait a minute... they are just pawns - the owner of the ocean will not allow!
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But it is funny though, like solving a puzzle or something made by a person living in a fantasy world.
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lmao
It's a good one. I am pretty good at cryptography but this is a puzzler.
I started with the last part as it seems the most simple to solve. "The owner of the ocean." Who does he mean? Poseidon? Neptune? The American fleet? Aquaman?
I think we are going to need clues here...
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Yeah, that could explain his hatred towards the west... We're definitely onto something!
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Just a quick question.
Are you insane or just plain stupid?
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as far as I understand, Prigozhin has agreed with authoritiesand and will work in Belarus. no criminal case awaits him. and now he's coming back to kill ukrainians. although the anti-terrorist situation in Moscow and another cities will continue to operate just in case
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AP NewsAlert: Kremlin spokesman says Wagner owner Yevgeny Prigozhin will move to Belarus as part of deal to defuse rebellion - Bloomberg
https://www.bloomberg.com/en/news/thp/2023-06-24/ap-newsalert-kremlin-spokesman-says-wagner-owner-yevgeny-prigozhin-will-move-to-belarus-as-part-of-deal-to-defuse-rebellion
or
War Monitor on Twitter: "⚡️#BREAKING Kremlin says it does not know where Prigozhin is now" / Twitter
https://twitter.com/WarMonitors/status/1672692602636828673
🙄Honestly, I think the real answer is to see if the promises are carried out for a day or two.
It seems that some money has been taken from Prigozhin place of business.💸😁
Visegrád 24 on Twitter: "Russian special forces seized USD 48 mln from the Wagner Group headquarters in St. Petersburg today " / Twitter
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1672694916659531780
To be honest, there is a lot of false or untrue information.
But what we do know for a fact is that Putin was insulted and put at the negotiating table.
Any past Putin would have been followed by retaliatory actions.
What is a little less clear as to the facts is that Prigozhin apparently demanded the acquittal of the mercenaries, their transfer to Belarus, and Shoigu's resignation in the negotiations.
It is hard not to wonder if these unnatural events set a precedent that such demands could easily be met in the event of a military coup in various parts of Russia.
In any case, it feels like a theater of power struggles within Russia.🎪🤡☣
One can only wonder why Lukashenko was suddenly roused, why there were no nuclear weapons among the stolen weapons, and why a temporary cease-fire was reached without both sides shooting at each other.
Anyway, there are many unnatural things going on, and it will be important to pay attention to the behavior of those who are not convinced about this situation.🤔
PS I got this information 5 minutes late.👇
War Monitor on Twitter: "⚡️#BREAKING Footage supposedly showing Yevgeny Prigozhin leaving the headquarters of the Southern Military District in Rostov. " / Twitter
https://twitter.com/WarMonitors/status/1672702802886262786
📹At any rate, it does not appear to be missing or dead at this time.
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https://sun9-44.userapi.com/impg/LAwFAxCbKZKhUz1FGAZccD7lLVzLRayHhuXBZQ/O-F2NTMLa9A.jpg?size=1064x1280&quality=96&sign=41f38ef943ca3e809580b1edd30b5dba&type=album вот ссылка на пикчу. в ВК не забанен ещё ципсота? Смотри быстрее, а то хозяева забанят зы ссылку за русский (Вконтакте) ресурс
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Зачем ты кормишь троллей? С ними ведь нет никакого смысла разговаривать? У одного вата в голове, и я могу поспорить, что он даже не задумался о последствиях того, как его президента публично опустили и показали как абсолютного импотента у власти. А второй это просто мамкин нацик, что цитирует Гитлера. И они еще нас нацистами называют, ну камон, это настолько толсто, что даже не смешно
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The damn NATOs media on the NATO TV through the NATO cable filmed on NATO cameras! How can they NATranslate these things which Miclay made up on the spot rn 😡😡😡😡
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Ehmmm. no. As far as I know NATO doesn't have a media channel (Source please?). It isn't like Russian state news. We have freedom of speech and all. Independent press, maybe you have heard about it before.
NATO doesn't benefit anything when 2 monsters fight for power. A civil war in an unstable nuclear crazy country doesn't benefit anybody as it's dangerous.
Even if it was a coup. NATO doesn't want Prigozhin in power. He is just as crazy as Putin. They were never freedom fighters, are you insane? They will always be war criminals.
You really don't understand anything about anything do you? Where do you get this nonsense?
Not so much NATO, but certainly the USA is still very very very happy to see Russia this divided though, That much divided that Putin is even scared. I am sure it didn't go unnoticed to the Russian people either.
You might think you have "won" something here again. But once again all it has proves is how weak, divided and unstable Russia is.
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🤔 It felt weird to expect anything from Prigozhin. For him, the doors of Russia are closing, but the windows of Belarus are wide open. May gravity grant him speed.
At least Prigozhin has demilitarized the Russian air force a little
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What an odd 24h hours. Seems like uncle Putin called uncle Luka to defuse the bomb. If it was staged it deserves a rotten tomato.
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Well, we listened to the wet Ukrainian dream, now the reality is different as usual.
1) Prigozhin is gone, no one is arguing here, maybe something will happen later, nothing is clear yet. And so it was done on account of merit with an agreement that was not advertised.
2) About Shoigu, then the grandmother said in two (an idiomatic expression, and so in fact they will look here). There will be more viewing of why the pilots died, if this is an initiative of the air control, then this is one action, and if there was an order, then they will look at the situation here. And so it is not visible here that there is no reason to remove the excess of official duties and in this regard.
3) And then Belgorod and cover from the attack of Sabotage groups, although they can also go to the Donbass. As it is, these are quite highly mobile detachments and today they are here, and tomorrow they are already 300 km from the previous place.
4) Something is not visible about the decline in the Reputation of Vladimir Vladimirovich, or it was in the idea that he would be ahead of everyone and on a dashing horse, this is nonsense, but the speech was said right away. The losses would have been with silence and further development of the crisis, and it was gone in 12 hours.
5) as for the losses of planes and helicopters with pilots, then yes, but there is still a need to understand the reason, and they didn't tell everyone. And so they could give an order, or it could be just a wish. They'll be watching right now. If the order, then it was agreed, although it's still a pity for the pilots.
6) Anger, if this is a decrease, then it means that it is constantly acting, although for some reason it goes through an increase in morale. First the Motherland, but then they will look. And we watched those who were the first to support this event, and these turned out to be the majority from abroad, and they are already known by their words in the networks.
7) No, they did not become terrorists, they announced the conditions, and some units have already returned to the contact line, and some offered to join other units. A lot depends on morality here. We were in Rostov, after that the locals were still clearing their brains, why some of them returned.
It wasn't a coup. If he were a leader, it is possible, but not now, but with the current state, then Prigozhin is already beginning to be regarded as a traitor. Withdrawal of the unit and opening of the defense line.
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Well, we listened to the wet Ukrainian dream, now the reality is different as usual.
TL;DR
he's trying to talk about the russian wet dream, but his russki translatorski just made gibberish out of it or he did it by himself translating it 10 times back and forth, otherwise it must have been a bot writing, besides the fact, that this whole BS isn't even suited for this topic here, deflecting and inflating once again, 8 Rubbles earned
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Главная интрига раскрыта! В ВСУ говорят, что «контрнаступ» всё-таки начался! Раньше не начинался, потому что любые контрнаступательные действия Украины разбивались о стену российского огня. Но теперь ввиду событий в РФ, появились шансы.
Важный фактор: о «контрнаступе» заявила замминистра обороны Украины Анна Маляр. Это, так сказать, персона на растерзание. Когда дело у ВСУ опять пойдет по женскому половому органу, всегда можно будет сказать, что эта баба из Минобороны что-то там не так поняла и не так трактовала. А что вы хотели! Военного опыта у Маляр – ноль, в недавнем прошлом она юрист и адвокат, возглавляла Центр правовых и криминологических исследований.
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shut the f up and get back into your hole where you came out
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dont talk about your mother like that, boy!
and now get back on the streets as the dimestore hooker you are
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WOOOOOOOW i am so proud of you using telegram, hahahahahaha
thats the only source you have. now get back to your mother!
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i am the nazi now?
hhahahahahah you are degenerated as your whole state of mind!
get back to your mother boy
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Успокойся пёс. Сидеть смирно! Как ты там кричал последних скриншотах в моём Стим профиле? Хорошо хоть стену от вас сатанистов прикрыл.
А ну ка покажи свои познания маленький бендеровец?
Трии-четыре! "SALO UKRAINA!" Извини - по другому писать не могу, я не фашист как ты и твои голубки в теме.
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you dipshit, SLAVA means GLORY. SLAVA UKRAINI! just for you!
marat how come you reply again in russian? seems like you are so desperate and angry that you forgot that you can actually talk in english.
but nevermind, i bath in your tears with every comment you leave and laugh my ass off how pathetically you trying to win this argument!
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He gave up translating from goo-goo-ga-ga language, so now he sends this gibberish 🤣
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Слушай, мне плевать что там написал у себя в профиле человек который поддержал меня в этой жалкой теме. В данном случае - "враг моего врага - мой друг". В данном случае я здесь один, а вас большинство. Всем прекрасно известно, что вы реабилитируете нацизм похлеще того парня якобы с цитатой гитлера. Не стройте из себя невинных. Зашёл в этому только чтобы немного позлить вас, после вчерашнего облома - которому вы так радовались. Продолжайте гнить дальше.
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yeah yeah, watch more Perwy and Rossija 1 you stupid little bitch
your leader is literally hiding like the piece of shit he is. enjoy living behind the "iron curtain²"
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Double standards of the ruSSian nazis in this thread today are off the charts :D
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happy purrsday in these dark times, hope your day at least is great!
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referring that everyone on the Internet who supports Ukraine is working for the Ukrainian PSYOP unit; they cannot comprehend that ordinary people can support Ukraine so much
Oh they can comprehend it, sure, but they're shilling for a rather basic con-man so they pretend their victims are the ones using the tactics they themselves actually use. It's classic really. A bit too classic to work with people with brains but they are not aiming at people with brains. They're aiming at the FAUX News people and the few Russians who have been so brainwashed since birth they don't even know how to use their own brain anymore
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What is the position of the user of the telegram in question, and what kind of person is disseminating the information? This is a story about which we cannot find much information, but this is the way the average Ukrainian citizen can look at the current Russian insurgency.
I think that is the purpose of this post.🤔
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I mean we know that Prigozhin is a master in the arts of internet manipulation so the whole "coup" was really obviously just a way to set himself up as the next in line for when he runs for president. And since he knows more than we do about Putin's health, I'm betting it was well timed too.
Considering his actions so far, I'm not really sure that he would be any better than Putin once in power. He might be less obviously insane but it's kinda like trading Trump for DeSantis. Same shit, just looking better.
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I have no idea what Prigozhin's intentions were. There is too much room for speculation. Maybe he simply got paid a lot of money to stop de-escalation as this is very bad for Putin's reputation. He is a mercenary after all. Maybe it was a power play. Maybe it was a chess move. Maybe he got scared. But I am pretty sure this isn't the end of it, unless he accidentally falls of a building.
That's indeed the case. Prigozhin is just as much as a crazy monster as Putin is. When Putin's time ends there might be a crazier military general in his place.
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The chess move is also possible theory - if we consider that prigo and putler are still in cahoots, this could have been some play to flank Ukraine from north and try to go after Kyiv again... Although I don't think that could really work since Ukraine has been able to fortify the north approach all the time they were fighting in south. So even if that would be the plan of kremlin to smokescreen prigozhins relocation to belarus, it seems quite weird one.
Plus it seems weird that people got killed, equipment destroyed and roads dug up. Would kremlin go to such lengths to actually sacrifice equipment to put up such a theater?
There are also talks that Shoigu is under house arrest now. So could be that prigo really only wanted shoigu and gerasimov out of his way. If lukash and putler played into prigos cards, maybe he struck up a deal for them to be removed from position. Although I am still unsure what is lukash's role here - would the talks of prigo becoming the new dictator of belarus be true? So many theories and speculation. I am truly curious where this goes.
Unfortunately this could only end badly. If Shoigu and gerisamov are replaced, someone more skilled could come into play. And if god forbid, putler would be overthrown by prigo himself, they could actually escalate the conflict way more or even bring it to west directly. So I hope prigo gets taken down one way or other along with kremlin.
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Russia has completed preparations for blowing up the Zaporizhzhia NPP
https://ukrainefrontlines.com/news/ukraine/russia-has-completed-preparations-for-blowing-up-the-zaporizhzhia-npp/
The usual Ukrainian intelligence claims....👓
Press releases | IAEA
So far, the IAEA has not reported anything to corroborate this allegation. (Of course, there are IAEA personnel on site.)
But...
"Liberty of Russia" Legion on Twitter: "According to our activists, yesterday afternoon, one of the groups of PMC Wagner moved in the direction of Borisoglebsk with the purpose to enter the territory of the military camp "Voronezh-45", where the military unit 14254 (12th Main Directorate of the Russian Defense Ministry… " / Twitter
https://twitter.com/legion_svoboda/status/1672981410062139393
memo
Мы – подразделение россиян, которое официально признано Вооруженными Силами Украины. Мы воюем в полном взаимодействии с ВСУ и под руководством украинского командования.
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Russians in Ukraine are fighting for Ukraine as volunteer soldiers.
Here is the official Twitter over there. And a strange report was on it.
If you have room for a longer version, please refer to the longer Twitter feed.
The Ukrainian military is probably aware of what is going on and is acting appropriately.
📡Glory to Ukraine📡
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"Liberty of Russia" Legion on Twitter: "The security of the international community depends directly on the military anti-Putin coalition, including the Legion. Only our swift victory on the front lines and our successful intervention can establish control over the nuclear arsenal, prevent it from falling into the… " / Twitter
https://twitter.com/legion_svoboda/status/1673596916834136064
(so long ....Go read the whole thing on the Twitter side.)
🤔Suggest that the Russians may have been catfished by Wagner with nuclear weapons in two locations?
In any case, I believe it was a Ukrainian volunteer unit.
I can't recall any suggestion from other Ukrainian forces regarding nuclear weapons.
Also, a small nuclear weapon that would not harm Russia would not only be meaningless if fired into Ukraine, it would ensure NATO intervention in Russia.
There seems to be no major concern.
IAEA
The IAEA has not continued to issue reports on the Zaporizha nuclear power plant since the last time this was confirmed. (It is probably safe).
Simply, when the Russian government runs out of all its cards and needs to borrow money, "We only have nuclear weapons!" It is always the same thing to repeat: "We have no choice but to use nuclear weapons! It is like a sick man on the verge of going down.
Jet linked to Prigozhin arrives in Belarus, Wagner Group chief says purported mutiny was just a 'protest' | Fox News
https://www.foxnews.com/world/jet-linked-prigozhin-arrives-belarus-wagner-group-chief-purported-mutiny-just-protest
When the upper echelons of Russia flee, it is the way of the world that they must flee to the Western countries to survive.🙄ooO(Death flag)
It seems that the Ukrainian front is doing its best to prevent that Russian government from talking nonsense.💉🤒
I recall a woman who was injected when she complained to Putin in Russia.
That was the sinking of the Kursk submarine.(2000/8/12)
I don't think anything has changed from the way it was handled then.
Kursk submarine disaster - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kursk_submarine_disaster
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Four months later, Nadezhda Tylik said that her husband had lied about the injection to the public to "save my nerves," and that he "did not ask for help." Tylik later said, "The injection was done to shut my mouth. Immediately after it, I just lost the ability to speak and was carried out."[12]
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It was 23 years ago, but it is not too difficult to imagine the future if nothing has changed in Putin's handling of the situation.(ヽ´Θ`)Oh💨
Have the Russians already forgotten this story?
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🙄Today, the IAEA's story on the Zaporizha nuclear power plant has not been added.
The Kyiv Independent on Twitter: "⚡️Ombudsman: Evacuation plans prepared in event of Russian attack at Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant. Ukraine has plans to evacuate nearby residents if Russia carries out an attack at the Zaporizhzhia nuclear plant, Ombudsman Dmytro Lubinets said on TV, New Voice reported." / Twitter
https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1673808995604213761
Катастрофа на ЗАЕС — підготовлено план евакуацій жителів кількох областей — новини України / NV
https://nv.ua/ukr/ukraine/politics/katastrofa-na-zaes-pidgotovleno-plan-evakuaciy-zhiteliv-kilkoh-oblastey-novini-ukrajini-50334997.html
Запорізька АЕС — Росія завершила підготовку до теракту та затвердила план — Буданов / NV
https://nv.ua/ukr/ukraine/events/zaporizka-aes-rosiya-zavershila-pidgotovku-do-teraktu-y-zatverdila-plan-budanov-50334414.html
🤔As usual, there is no verification from the IAEA, but Ukrainian intelligence claims that explosives were planted in four of the six critical facilities, and they are preparing to establish and operate an evacuation plan in case of an emergency.
In any case, there seems to be enough grace time to evacuate in case of emergency.
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30 Jun 2023
Update 168 – IAEA Director General Statement on Situation in Ukraine | IAEA
https://www.iaea.org/newscenter/pressreleases/update-168-iaea-director-general-statement-on-situation-in-ukraine-0
🙄Perhaps it was added shortly after my last post?
The IAEA found no mines or explosives within visual range.
However, that doesn't mean there aren't any, because they haven't been provided, even though they should have been provided with all facility access rights.
That is the kind of content that can be recognized.
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dude, if this facility melts, there is no time for anything....its the biggest in europe and the destruction isnt imaginable compared to Fukushima or Chernobyl
we can just cross fingers that the wind turns away from us
but i also doubt that they would do the same shit as they did with the dam 3 weeks ago. it would be more than just plain dumb
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I would have agreed with you if it had been right after the Russian surprise attack.
But now it is not that serious.
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Five of the ZNPP's six reactors are in cold shutdown.
Unit 5 remains in hot shutdown to generate steam required for the site.
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Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zaporizhzhia_Nuclear_Power_Plant
Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Plant - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fukushima_Daiichi_Nuclear_Power_Plant
Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant
Units operational 6 × 950 MW
🤔 <It is not as serious as it was at the beginning of the war. (Because the appropriate stopgap measures have been taken most of the time.)
Only one of them is not cold.
The five that are in cold shutdown (they rarely fission below 100 degrees Celsius) are fine.
They are in safe protective containers to begin with.
For those that are not in cold shutdown, there is concern about long-term adverse effects on the surrounding area if cooling is severely impeded.
However, a "big explosion" is unlikely.
The life expectancy of Russians and Ukrainians will be significantly shortened.
Mainly from the younger generation.
This was thought to be the case during the Soviet era.
In reality, after the Fukushima nuclear accident following the Great East Japan Earthquake, the "WHO" examined the incidence of cancer and found that radiation levels were so low that there was no causal relationship.
Of course, it is definitely better to stay away from such areas if possible.
Under the current state of protection, even if something like the dam were to happen, unless "nuclear weapons" were used, it would only be an evil act that would disrupt the "world economy" and the "human mind," and the nuclear site would be permanently inaccessible to humans (without protective equipment).
On the contrary, it is that limited.
In the real worst case scenario, even if "nuclear weapons were used," the interpretation that NATO suffered radiation damage is likely to pass!
If it did, it would be nothing, unless the protective containers of nuclear fuel were carefully removed before the nuclear attack.
There would be no significant impact.
However, Ukraine and Russia in the northern hemisphere would become contaminated and uninhabitable year after year. (Perhaps stable cooling would not be possible locally for a week or so immediately after the accident, after which efforts would be made to resume cooling.)
If such an atrocity were to occur, Ukraine would suffer wounds second only to Chernobyl, but the day is near when Ukraine will triumph over the Russian government.
In any case, make sure you have the means to verify the correct information.
In case the search engines and Twitter go crazy.
People may also want to check the IAEA press releases and the websites of those involved.
At the very least, even assuming the "worst of the worst" as in the evil conspiracy theories created by the Russian BOT, this is about all that can realistically happen.
I think it is more likely that Russia will be nuked by the US first.🙄🚀
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In reality, after the Fukushima nuclear accident following the Great East Japan Earthquake, the "WHO" examined the incidence of cancer and found that radiation levels were so low that there was no causal relationship.
🙄<Transfer miss...
Global report on Fukushima nuclear accident details health risks
https://www.who.int/news/item/28-02-2013-global-report-on-fukushima-nuclear-accident-details-health-risks
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“The primary concern identified in this report is related to specific cancer risks linked to particular locations and demographic factors,” says Dr Maria Neira, WHO Director for Public Health and Environment. “A breakdown of data, based on age, gender and proximity to the nuclear plant, does show a higher cancer risk for those located in the most contaminated parts. Outside these parts - even in locations inside Fukushima Prefecture - no observable increases in cancer incidence are expected.”
In terms of specific cancers, for people in the most contaminated location, the estimated increased risks over what would normally be expected are:
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Well, I do not recommend that you build a house and live on the site of a nuclear power plant.
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A Russian Storm Z unit is completely disappointed by Prigozhin. According to them, Prigozhin is not a man, but a pussy
[Video on Twitter] - Convicts from Storm Z unit who voiced support for Prigozhin's march yesterday recorded another address to Prigozhin accusing him of backing down. While they use a lot of convict speak and look convincing, it may not be sensible to reveal themselves like that.
Regardless, such sentiment is not uncommon in the Russian forces after Prigozhin stopped without reaching Moscow.
❗🤣 [Twitter] - Russians joke:
"All that we found out today is that if, God forbid, NATO attacks us, the most we'll be able to do is to dig out the asphalt and call Lukashenko"
Very typical of master strategists from Russia
[Twitter] - (...) The russians dropped a prohibited asphyxiating aerosol ammunition on one of the positions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
However, the wind was blowing towards the enemy, - reported the spokesman of the Tavria direction Defense Forces, Valeriy Shershen. (...)
💪🟦🟨
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God fucking damn - those pathetic trolls sprung up like mushrooms after rain. Total silence while prigo was playing his theatre or whatever it was and instantly here to shitpost the moment everything "calms down". Almost as if prigo and wagner got money settlement to calm down and finally has spare change to pay to these lonely sad individuals to spring up in discussion forums and propagate their bullshit in return for some CS GO weapon skins.
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hahaha for csgo skins, it's like true ussr story about blowjob for bubblegum gift
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My bet is the troll farms recruit them through different scum filled bottom dwelling forums. Thats why my first thought went to CS GO skins.. and not even fully as a joke. They must have some motivation to not care about being banned. I am wondering more about some of the trolls who have many games both won and given away. Is it worth it for them to throw away account for whatever they are paid? Or are they product of the troll farms and unironically believe everything? But my thought either way goes back to them being paid trolls because they come up only periodically when Russia has some huge fuckup and they have to mask it with shitposting. They have to be paid - there is no other sane explanation.
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It's 100% paid, right. They appera in waves, every time there's a big fuckup from russia.
As for the people who sell their accounts - meh, guess they don't care enough. some hundreds of rubles are enough for them to let fuckers spew hatred arond. That's the price of russian "humanism".
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